Sky 0960: All channels on Sky Atlantic transponder went black (rejected ECMs)

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    There are calculators for maths problems lol.... Its gone get over it.

    your a bundle of sunshine arent you lol


    just letting people know whats being said no 1 really knows for sure

    Taken form another forum...




    Not a huge contributor on here, but am a constant user to keep updated and abreast of things, I'm not a server owner or a programmer etc, just an enthusiast who read the old threads earlier and didn't respond to any of the guesswork that was going on as basically that was all it was, uneducated guesswork.



    I know there was mention above of not posting messages regarding "My mate said this or that" etc, but I do actually know two people personally who are involved with Oscam work and programming, one of them whom I know from my university days is directly involved with the upkeep and admin at the site "Streamboard" also, there's no info more up to date than the info he has access to and that is fact.



    In an earlier thread that has since been deleted there was an actual link to Streamboard, anybody who checked it would have seen that it went into the actual technical side of what was happening, not random guesswork, having had a conversation with somebody directly involved I can confirm a few things, everything that I'm about to write will be updated and confirmed through Streamboard in due course once everything has been finalized, the only reason I'm taking the time to do this is because of the guesswork and scaremongering that's been going on, although unintentional that's pretty much all that's happened since yesterday so some facts might help put some folk at ease to an extent.



    The facts as to what is actually happening were touched upon in the above mentioned link and that is that there is nothing within the Entitlement Control Message (ECM) that is affecting things right now, so all talk of ecm changes are just nonsense, as is transponder talk.



    The problem exists within the CW (Control Word)....The actual encryption data itself



    Now this is where the technical side of it went way over my head during my conversation, but the laymans terms that I got was that the encryption has not changed in the same way it did for HD or for the same way it did with Sky Italia, the encryption is compatible with existing Sky cards, including the old white 09's which is where local cards and shared cache's get the required data to make card sharing possible, so that also makes the talk of changing over Thompson Receivers to Sky +HD nonsense also, its completely irrelevant.



    What they have done is quite clever apparently but it will 100% be worked out, the changes that will be required to be made will all be within the "oscam.config" which is basically the standard configuration file that servers use to run and make this all possible, so server owners will be getting access to an updated config file once completed and the missing channels will be back.



    This is as close to the horses mouth as you will get and I have been told categorically that this is absolutely NOT the end of cardsharing as we know it and when the config is complete and uploaded things will continue as they were once servers have been updated to the new config.



    There is a but though and that is the reasoning behind what has happened the last few days, the general feeling is that Sky were testing a few channels to see what the result was, that unfortunately is not true, Sky and anybody with a certain level of understanding of encryptions would know that no test is required, the results of the changes that were made are set in stone and known before they were put in place therefore there is no test required or needed.



    That is where the but comes in because what has happened is fixable with a configuration change, Sky and the programming engineers working with Sky know that just as much as the guys who deal with oscam, they know its fixable and can be worked around, so the actual reason behind it is a mystery.



    Its not just to disrupt or to annoy, that much is clear, but the real reason is unclear at the moment as the changes they have made don't really relate to anything they can build on long term as once worked around that's it, it cant be implemented into a different part of the whole procedure so its not clear why they did it or what the overall goal of it was but its obviously something much bigger and more complex, whether its something that could happen next week or next year nobody knows, but its clear that some serious thought and investment has been put in to this and its one of the biggest changes or moves that Sky have made to in a long time, so the general feeling from someone directly involved is that something much bigger is on the way, but as above the timescale is not known.


    Sky have obviously always taken it seriously and attempted to stop it but it looks as though they have upped the effort on it and are seriously taking steps to put an end to it long term, or at least until the technology to work around it comes to light.



    I know some people on here will no doubt rubbish everything that I have put down here because I'm not directly involved with oscam or servers and because I'm not a TK Veteran etc etc, but what I've put down will be available through streamboard in due course and a lot of it already is there to read up on, so please take the time to research a little into the technical facts of what is going on and with what I've tried to explain here and hopefully I've helped put some minds at ease a little.

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    Agreed, only sly themselves know for sure. For me its pretty simple, just use what they know worked is Italy.

    All the pay servers will be crapping themselves and praying for a fix.

    This is just the start IMHO , kodi, vermin, germany sly and iptv will be next.

    Thats what happens when its advertised all over social media, hell i have even seen signs for it on lamp posts and at traffic lights

    If i had a fix, i would keep it very very quiet......

    the ticket to look at it on another site has been closed so it looks like it's bye bye.it's strange that all the German channels still work hd and sd or is it because the devs are mostly German and the site is too.maybe sly has come to an agreement with them and in return for them not looking in to sly it and UK thay will leave them alone.

    Isnt all this part of the fun?

    I dont even watch any if those channels anyway.

    If I wanted a 100% stable TV I'd plug my original box in but i dont.

    Don't think sky will kill CS as it would loose a lot of subscribers.

    There's all ways VM which I use now as its HD so let's all chill and wait for the Chinese to fix this as its there box's we buy.

    Nobody knows whats going on these channels could just appear back on in a couple of days time only 3 or 4 channels and all you here is its the end end end end, Stop speculating and making it up in your own head its not good for you and it isnt helping the people that know how this works fix the problem i would be more concerned when more than these channels are black.


    Chill!

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    guys, sat scene has always been cat and mouse long before cs was even thought of, there is still plenty out there with motorised dish when sly uk goes.

    For what its worth my 2 pence..

    once we lose the main cs players companies like dream multimedia vu etc will make new emu under different company name (just like before), i suspect this time it will be closed and no longer open source to protect there investment. who is going to buy a £100-£500 fta receiver? no one! once this affects there sales it will come.

    it may not be straight away but the more major cards that go the quicker it will come.

    for now just enjoy what you have.

    foz

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