Hope this helps someone, thanks go to Mirage.
Thanks for this guide in English!, reading thru this is the black-box/ hyper flash guide. theirs no mention about using a addition 5800 with enigma.
Also thanks bloto22 for the heads, is you procedure different from this BSLA.pdf "http://linuxsat-support.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23448&d=1397081898" as im a little confused.
i got the experience regarding flashing with Willem programmers to other boxes a few years back , but these seem to have many ways around regarding flashing