thanks folks.
i totally understand and agree with that your saying, usually i do go for the more expensive option, when i buy tech i usually go for mid+ range! but in this case.. i just wont have the time for at least another 11 months to do any tinkering and get the best out of a box.
recording function isnt a definite requirement, it would just be nice. i would even consider the arriva 202 for £79, but again, i dont know if its worth the extra etc. in regards to the tv guide, i basically want to to be hassle free i.e. doesnt take long to locate and tune in to whichever channel
***box f3 seems to be coming up in alot of my google searches too?