SIS Auto Update with Oscam 776 - revision 11438

**Antepenultim8** · Nov 16th 2018

P 048A0078 00 00000000000000 ;Alphameric Studio and SIS+(PVU1), 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0078 01 00000000000000 ;Alphameric Studio and SIS+(PVU1), 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0082 00 00000000000000 ;Alphameric Studio with BTC AUDIO, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0082 01 00000000000000 ;Alphameric Studio with BTC AUDIO, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A007A 00 00000000000000 ;Alphameric UK CISCO 1, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A007A 01 00000000000000 ;Alphameric UK CISCO 1, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A007B 00 00000000000000 ;ALPHAMERIC UK with BTC, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A007B 01 00000000000000 ;ALPHAMERIC UK with BTC, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A00A8 00 00000000000000 ;Betfred SIS CISCO 1, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A00A8 01 00000000000000 ;Betfred SIS CISCO 1, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A00A0 00 00000000000000 ;Betfred TOG CISCO 3, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A00A0 01 00000000000000 ;Betfred TOG CISCO 3, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A0031 00 00000000000000 ;Betfred TOTE 2 CISCO 1, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A0031 01 00000000000000 ;Betfred TOTE 2 CISCO 1, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A00A2 00 00000000000000 ;Betfred TV (TTV) CISCO 4, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A00A2 01 00000000000000 ;Betfred TV (TTV) CISCO 4, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A00A3 00 00000000000000 ;Betfred TV Virtual CISCO 5, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A00A3 01 00000000000000 ;Betfred TV Virtual CISCO 5, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A0014 00 00000000000000 ;Coral TV1 PVU4, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0014 01 00000000000000 ;Coral TV1 PVU4, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A001D 00 00000000000000 ;Coral TV1 SIS Data -PVU4, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A001D 01 00000000000000 ;Coral TV1 SIS Data -PVU4, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0017 00 00000000000000 ;Coral TV2 PVU6, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0017 01 00000000000000 ;Coral TV2 PVU6, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0042 00 00000000000000 ;Ladbrokes 1 PVU 3, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0042 01 00000000000000 ;Ladbrokes 1 PVU 3, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0027 00 00000000000000 ;Ladbrokes SIS DATA, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A0027 01 00000000000000 ;Ladbrokes SIS DATA, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A0021 00 00000000000000 ;Ladbrokes SIS LES2 CISCO 1, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A0021 01 00000000000000 ;Ladbrokes SIS LES2 CISCO 1, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A0058 00 00000000000000 ;Ladbrokes Extra PVU5, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0058 01 00000000000000 ;Ladbrokes Extra PVU5, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A00C8 00 00000000000000 ;MCUK Test, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A00C8 01 00000000000000 ;MCUK Test, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A00C9 00 00000000000000 ;MK Test, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A00C9 01 00000000000000 ;MK Test, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0093 00 00000000000000 ;New Boyles Sports CISCO 1, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A0093 01 00000000000000 ;New Boyles Sports CISCO 1, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A006F 00 00000000000000 ;PPTV1, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A006F 01 00000000000000 ;PPTV1, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A0071 00 00000000000000 ;PPTV1-IE, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0071 01 00000000000000 ;PPTV1-IE, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0072 00 00000000000000 ;PPTV1-UK, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0072 01 00000000000000 ;PPTV1-UK, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0070 00 00000000000000 ;PPTV2, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0070 01 00000000000000 ;PPTV2, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0074 00 00000000000000 ;PPTV3, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0074 01 00000000000000 ;PPTV3, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A00FA 00 00000000000000 ;SIS BarOne Indep, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A00FA 01 00000000000000 ;SIS BarOne Indep, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A005B 00 00000000000000 ;SIS Europe (NO DATA) CISCO 2, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A005B 01 00000000000000 ;SIS Europe (NO DATA) CISCO 2, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A005A 00 00000000000000 ;SIS Euro-CISCO 2, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A005A 01 00000000000000 ;SIS Euro-CISCO 2, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A006C 00 00000000000000 ;SIS MK Test PVU 8, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A006C 01 00000000000000 ;SIS MK Test PVU 8, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0131 00 00000000000000 ;SIS UK (AUDIO ONLY), 4.8E, 12418

P 048A0131 01 00000000000000 ;SIS UK (AUDIO ONLY), 4.8E, 12418

P 048A0130 00 00000000000000 ;SIS UK (DATA ONLY), 4.8E, 12418

P 048A0130 01 00000000000000 ;SIS UK (DATA ONLY), 4.8E, 12418

P 048A012E 00 00000000000000 ;SIS UK CISCO 1, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A012E 01 00000000000000 ;SIS UK CISCO 1, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A0036 00 00000000000000 ;WH 2, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A0036 01 00000000000000 ;WH 2, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A0198 00 00000000000000 ;SIS UK with 2DB, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0198 01 00000000000000 ;SIS UK with 2DB, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0099 00 00000000000000 ;SIS UK with BTC and 2DB, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A0099 01 00000000000000 ;SIS UK with BTC and 2DB, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A0099 00 00000000000000 ;SIS UK with BTC, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A0099 01 00000000000000 ;SIS UK with BTC, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A000B 00 00000000000000 ;SIS VISION AUDIO & VBI CISCO 1, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A000B 01 00000000000000 ;SIS VISION AUDIO & VBI CISCO 1, 12418

P 048A0046 00 00000000000000 ;SIS VISION BTC AUDIO (ch11), 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0046 01 00000000000000 ;SIS VISION BTC AUDIO (ch11), 12149

P 048A0190 00 00000000000000 ;SIS+ (PVU1), 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0190 01 00000000000000 ;SIS+ (PVU1), 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0088 00 00000000000000 ;SIS+ with BTC AUDIO, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0088 01 00000000000000 ;SIS+ with BTC AUDIO, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A005C 00 00000000000000 ;SIS Spanish PVU2, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A005C 01 00000000000000 ;SIS Spanish PVU2, 4.8E, 12149

P 048A0073 00 00000000000000 ;Test Channel CISCO 1, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A0073 01 00000000000000 ;Test Channel CISCO 1, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A00CB 00 00000000000000 ;VBI Test, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A00CB 01 00000000000000 ;VBI Test, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A0035 00 00000000000000 ;William Hill IP CLEAR CISCO 6, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A0035 01 00000000000000 ;William Hill IP CLEAR CISCO 6, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A003B 00 00000000000000 ;William Hill SIS DATA CISCO 6, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A003B 01 00000000000000 ;William Hill SIS DATA CISCO 6, 4.8E, 12418

P 048A005F 00 00000000000000 ; RTVi

P 048A005F 01 00000000000000 ; RTVi

P 048A 00558020 BFC4EF57666AC9 ;EMM Key

P 048A 002B8EF7 B7F1C5CBCD1867 ;EMM Key

P 048A 00595C6A 9A724EA38306C3 ;EMM Key

P 048A 004042D8 D70A0BD206B274 ;EMM Key

P 048A 004D61BC 850F8ECDA2D356 ;EMM Key

P 048A 004D6864 7EA4FAA3A09FE3 ;EMM Key

P 048A 00530ABD ECF4B073C7F8A4 ;EMM Key

i changed the 4.8 east

nautilus7 · Nov 16th 2018

Do your posts have a purpose or you're just spamming?

RTVi is indeed a SIS channels. It opens with the same ecm key that all SIS channels use.

**Antepenultim8** · Nov 16th 2018

i didn't know that

i allways thought it was

russian tv international

985b5ab9c274e4e0b4.jpg

maigais · Nov 16th 2018

au okey ...

fmoreira · Nov 16th 2018

I believe my problem is not the AU but the way OScam saves the Key from AU on SoftamKey

With Rev774 i have on Softcam.Key:

P 005E0017 00 00000000000000000

P 005E0017 01 00000000000000000

The AU works and i get:

P 5E0017 00 KEY ; added by OSEmu Fri Nov 16 16:43:11 2018 UA: 00595C6A

And everything works ok....

With Rev776 i have on Softcam.Key:

P 005E0017 00 00000000000000000

P 005E0017 01 00000000000000000

The AU works ok but the final result is:

P 20017 00 KEY ; added by OSEmu Fri Nov 16 19:52:11 2018 UA: 004042D8

And the channel still dark...

Any idea why Rev776 do not save the Key from AU with the same config from Rev774?

fmoreira · Nov 16th 2018

This is a really mess.... I will try explain as far as my poor english allow me...

In Rev774 AU gives me:

P 5E0017 00 KEY ; added by OSEmu Fri Nov 16 16:43:11 2018 UA: 00595C6A

And everything works ok....

In Rev 776 i get

P 20017 00 KEY ; added by OSEmu Fri Nov 16 19:52:11 2018 UA: 004042D8

And it not works...

But i think the different Key configuration is not the problem....

With Rev776 when i leave it on a SIS channel to get AU i I get the "Key not found" message in the Live log indefinitely (no matter i wait 10 or 40 minutes). When i change for another non SIS channel my Softcam.key is filled by the AU keys.... They are all the same Key with the exception of one. This is the only correct and that channel is the only working (everytime Ladbrokes 1- PVU3) .... if i manually change all the keys obtained in the AU to the different one all the channels are ok....

I do not understand....

nautilus7 · Nov 16th 2018

I am quoting from the oscam-emu wiki:

Quote

For best results, it is recommended to have no more than 10 EMM keys in each group, especially if you have many groups in your SoftCam.Key file, and make sure there are no EMM keys with the same UA belonging to different groups.

The behavior you see is because of the way the AU algorithm is designed. There's nothing that can be done. You came across this now because the EMM keys used for AU were increased in version r776.

When the AU algorithm runs, it does NOT know the group. So, If you tune to channel with service id 0017, the algorithm doesn't know if the correct group is 0002 or 005E. So When it receives an emm packet for a specific UA, it updates the ECM keys in the same group as the emm key with that UA.

nautilus7 · Nov 16th 2018

fmoreira send me your softcam.key file to have a look. It should be a way to simplify it, so it works better.

nautilus7 · Nov 16th 2018

Serjoga AU on the 2nd SIS transponder (12418H) doesn't seem to work. I left it for 4+ hours and got no emm packets, and no new ecm keys of course. It's not an emu problem. I don't believe that it works on pc either. Perhaps you were misinformed.

fmoreira · Nov 17th 2018

Quote from nautilus7

fmoreira send me your softcam.key file to have a look. It should be a way to simplify it, so it works better.

Thanks nautilus7

That can explain why in some days Sis Au works?!

My softcam.Key:

https://www.sendspace.com/file/ha50aa

nautilus7 · Nov 17th 2018

No, it can't.

If you don't always tune to the same channel when auto updating, this can explain it though.

nautilus7 · Nov 17th 2018

fmoreira the softcam.key you attached is fine!

There is no key P 20017 00 like you mention in your previous post, so there is no way to come into problems. Probably the problems you get are coming from another softcam.key...

fmoreira · Nov 17th 2018

Quote from nautilus7

fmoreira the softcam.key you attached is fine!

There is no key P 20017 00 like you mention in your previous post, so there is no way to come into problems. Probably the problems you get are coming from another softcam.key...

The softcam. key is from one of my tests... Probably I quote the P 20017 form a different one... But the problem is there :

P 20057 00 284A9706653530 ; added by OSEmu Fri Nov 16 22:18:31 2018 UA: 004D61BC

P 20042 01 4A727569428A67 ; added by OSEmu Fri Nov 16 22:18:31 2018 UA: 004D61BC

The last line is different from all others and is the only that was correct...

Why it only write Au keys after I change from a different channel?

And why all the keys are the same... And wrong keys, except one, and that is the correct for the all package?

ThIS afternoon I will try to get a recent softcam. Key... But today probably AU is working ok (I use always the same channel)

Thanks

nautilus7 · Nov 17th 2018

I really don't understand what is your point...

I asked you to give me the softcam.key you use and have problems. You sent me another one that doesn't give you problems... Now you ask some questions that do not make any sense.

Give me the EXACT softcam.key you use and have problems. Tell me the EXACT channel you tune into to get AU. Then I can tell you what is the problem, if there is one.

fmoreira · Nov 17th 2018

Quote from nautilus7

I really don't understand what is your point...

I asked you to give me the softcam.key you use and have problems. You sent me another one that doesn't give you problems... Now you ask some questions that do not make any sense.

Give me the EXACT softcam.key you use and have problems. Tell me the EXACT channel you tune into to get AU. Then I can tell you what is the problem, if there is one.

I also have problems with this softcam.key... This one is from my testes yesterday afternoon... Sis did not work... All keys from AU are wrong keys except last one (Ladbrokes 1- PVU3)...

I tried again at night with same results... AU keys are all wrong less last one (Ladbrokes 1- PVU3)... And only had been written after I change for a no sis channel

So, the softcam.key I gave you is not working

I update on Coral Tv1

Thanks for your help and sorry for my limitations on oscam and English. They do not help a better communication

fmoreira · Nov 17th 2018

I will try give you a example :

Receiver is on Coral tv1 and I wait for Au...

I will keep receiving the Key not found message on live log forever

In moment I change for another channel (not a sis channel) I will get Au keys on softcam.key for sis

All the written keys are the same less last one

The last one is for Ladbrokes 1- PVU3 and this channel is the only one working.

If I change all other keys for the ladbrokes key all channel's start working...

This happens all times ...

Hope this help explain my situation. If you check softcam.key I left you can see last key is different from the others

Thanks again

Edit:

Today AU on SIS is working ok... i wait for 7 minutes and the channel clear. All Sis channel´s are working ok.... all key written on Softcam.key are the same key...

This is another strange thing: since last saturday one day Au not worked (like i explain above) the next day worked ok... and kept this sequence all week long...

nautilus7 · Nov 17th 2018

I looked again in your softcam.key... It is a real mess... When you add instructions on your softcam.key oh how to add keys, you have to add them as comments.

COMMENT LINES START WITH CHARACTERS LIKE "=" or "-" or ";" etc. The lines below (taken from your sofcam.key) are NOT comments!!!

Code

P sid Key
ou
P onid/sid Key
P xxxxXXXX Key

srvid: é o Sid convertido em hexadecimal

Se o srvid começar por 0 esse 0 deve ser colocado no fim, exemplo:
SID:510-dec --> 01FE-hex ==> SRVID:1FE0


Easiest way to find the correct key line:
Switch to the channel, oscam-emu/Osemu will log:
[Emu] Key not found: P 1234 00
-> add key as
P 1234 00 xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Outra forma é ver o Sid que aparece nos 2boomEcmInfo. Deve ser usado como aparece lá

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For example the line P onid/sid Key is considered as an actual key!!!

Also powervu ecm keys without a group are not allowed. These keys are invalid:

Code

P 1FE0 00 B07EC58F412BD7  The Fight Network
P 1FE0 01 A52E79D341F87F  The Fight Network

All this crap inside your sofcam.key file can cause weird issues like those you mention. Clean up your softcam.key file and try again!

fmoreira · Nov 17th 2018

Quote from nautilus7
I looked again in your softcam.key... It is a real mess... When you add instructions on your softcam.key oh how to add keys, you have to add them as comments.

COMMENT LINES START WITH CHARACTERS LIKE "=" or "-" or ";" etc. The lines below (taken from your sofcam.key) are NOT comments!!!
Code
P sid Key
ou
P onid/sid Key
P xxxxXXXX Key

srvid: é o Sid convertido em hexadecimal

Se o srvid começar por 0 esse 0 deve ser colocado no fim, exemplo:
SID:510-dec --> 01FE-hex ==> SRVID:1FE0


Easiest way to find the correct key line:
Switch to the channel, oscam-emu/Osemu will log:
[Emu] Key not found: P 1234 00
-> add key as
P 1234 00 xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Outra forma é ver o Sid que aparece nos 2boomEcmInfo. Deve ser usado como aparece lá
Display More
For example the line P onid/sid Key is considered as an actual key!!!

Also powervu ecm keys without a group are not allowed. These keys are invalid:
Code
P 1FE0 00 B07EC58F412BD7  The Fight Network
P 1FE0 01 A52E79D341F87F  The Fight Network
All this crap inside your sofcam.key file can cause weird issues like those you mention. Clean up your softcam.key file and try again!
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Thanks... i will clear and correct my softcam.key...

In past week i test Sis Au with my softcam and with softcams (and the others oscam files) from users who had SIS AU working ok,

And the result was the same: on a day that works, works with any softcam, on a day when it does not work, does not work with any..

I also tested with softcam only with the keys related to SIS .... and the results were the same.

Thanks again for your help!!

maigais · Nov 17th 2018

I have a question, why go to the Russian language tracks

is a mistake

(dvbapi) ERROR: ioctl(CA_SET_DESCR): Invalid argument

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there are no errors on other language paths

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B8311A c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 ecmpid 0 CAID: 0E00 ECM_PID: 1777 PROVID: 000000

2018/11/17 19:19:40 5BB8311A c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 found 1 ECMpids and 8 STREAMpids in caPMT

2018/11/17 19:19:40 5BB8311A c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 0 CAID 0E00 PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1777 ANY CHID PMTPID 03DF VPID 0384

2018/11/17 19:19:40 5BB8311A c (ecm) linuxsatsupport (P: 0E00::0385:1777:0000 #ECM_L:40 #CW=B0CE4F0E92FD29A70000000000000000 HOP:00): found (7 ms) by emulator - Science Europe

2018/11/17 19:19:40 5BB8311A c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 found 1 ECMpids and 8 STREAMpids in PMT

2018/11/17 19:19:41 5BB8311A c (ecm) linuxsatsupport (P: 0E00::0385:1777:0000 #ECM_L:40 #CW=0000000000000000E0CB23BA54F8A258 HOP:00): found (7 ms) by emulator - Science Europe

2018/11/17 19:19:41 5BB8311A c (ecm) linuxsatsupport (P: 0E00::0385:1777:0000 #ECM_L:40 #CW=0D9143BA1AF7D5320000000000000000 HOP:00): found (10 ms) by emulator - Science Europe

2018/11/17 19:19:42 5BB8311A c (ecm) linuxsatsupport (P: 0E00::0385:1777:0000 #ECM_L:40 #CW=00000000000000004023BFE9B6F7F1DA HOP:00): found (16 ms) by emulator - Science Europe

2018/11/17 19:19:43 5BB8311A c (ecm) linuxsatsupport (P: 0E00::0385:1777:0000 #ECM_L:40 #CW=A27C1A08F485E6A40000000000000000 HOP:00): found (15 ms) by emulator - Science Europe

2018/11/17 19:19:44 5BB8311A c (ecm) linuxsatsupport (P: 0E00::0385:1777:0000 #ECM_L:40 #CW=0000000000000000518946D38FC25475 HOP:00): found (8 ms) by emulator - Science Europe

2018/11/17 19:19:45 5BB8311A c (ecm) linuxsatsupport (P: 0E00::0385:1777:0000 #ECM_L:40 #CW=62BF4513B310D9850000000000000000 HOP:00): found (27 ms) by emulator - Science Europe

2018/11/17 19:19:46 5BB8311A c (ecm) linuxsatsupport (P: 0E00::0385:1777:0000 #ECM_L:40 #CW=0000000000000000A83D1986CDA4C125 HOP:00): found (28 ms) by emulator - Science Europe

2018/11/17 19:19:47 5BB8311A c (ecm) linuxsatsupport (P: 0E00::0385:1777:0000 #ECM_L:40 #CW=164C58858A2F13BA0000000000000000 HOP:00): found (16 ms) by emulator - Science Europe

2018/11/17 19:19:48 5BB8311A c (ecm) linuxsatsupport (P: 0E00::0385:1777:0000 #ECM_L:40 #CW=0000000000000000B597F485708AF84C HOP:00): found (44 ms) by emulator - Science Europe

**ducomico** · Nov 18th 2018

With me, with Oscam configuration and SoftCam by Serjoga Latvia on October 21, 2018, with AU, I quickly get on VU + solo receiver V2, picture and tone. as can be seen from the annex.

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