Pure2 help and general zgemma chit chat questions - PEEPS REALLY SHOULD OPEN THERE OWN THREADS !!

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    OK, shall we get to the bottom of it?


    If I have only 29% signal on a transponder - depending on other parameters strength/quality - I may not be able to see it... but at 32% I may see a channel...


    So, can you answer (precisely!) these questions, please - it is important to compare allegedly non-working one (H7) with a working box (Edision+) in exactly the same spot, with the very same equipment, with the same 2 images in both of those boxes, with the same settings, EVERYTHING MUST BE THE SAME, of course:


    1) whereabout in the world are you (in EU one should have a very large dish for that, from what I see - how big is yours)?


    2) where exactly are these various measurements taken - is it with the VERY SAME dish/LNB/switch, the same length of cable, at the very same spot in the house?


    3) different images you are using are OpenATV and PurE2?


    4) how did blindscan work on 26E on both of those boxes with 2 different images on that frequency/transponder?


    5) when one is comparing the Signal Finder tool inside the image and when one uses E-Channelizer on a PC, what are the results?


    6) what does a professional who setup the system say - was there enough signal in the exact same spot where one is using H7?


    7) ciefp & @ everyone - did anyone try this package, do you have signal for it, how does it behave at your end, please?


    8) Is it in T2-MI: https://en.kingofsat.net/pos-26E.php (the details may not be correct there and I tried searching elsewhere on the internet but I couldn't get all the details properly.... I mean, I can see T2-MI is set to -1 but...???) So, just in case it is T2-MI, have you tried Dimitrij's plugin for it in H7? I can see Edision guys have put it into Manual Scan menu but I can't see it in H7 yet...

    "Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-incurred immaturity. Immaturity is the inability to use one's own understanding without the guidance of another. This immaturity is self-incurred if its cause is not lack of understanding, but lack of resolution and courage to use it without the guidance of another. The motto of enlightenment is therefore: Sapere aude! Have courage to use your own understanding!"


    http://www.columbia.edu/acis/ets/CCREAD/etscc/kant.html

    OK, some things are now clearer... And some are a bit... strange... At first you reported only 29% of SNR... But OK...

    I'll see what I can do...


    In the meantime, I need a few more things, please:


    1) whereabout in the world are you?


    2) what does blindscan find - on both of those boxes - with 2 different images on that frequency/transponder, can you check?


    3) if one uses E-Channelizer to stream from H7 to a PC (VLC), what are the results?


    4) which channel list are you using (just curious)?

    "Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-incurred immaturity. Immaturity is the inability to use one's own understanding without the guidance of another. This immaturity is self-incurred if its cause is not lack of understanding, but lack of resolution and courage to use it without the guidance of another. The motto of enlightenment is therefore: Sapere aude! Have courage to use your own understanding!"


    http://www.columbia.edu/acis/ets/CCREAD/etscc/kant.html

    Ok thanks again


    ZGEMMA H7S


    (1) I'm in Italy Modena

    (2) blindscan very good I will show you the results

    PurE2 6.5 = 332

    Openatv 6.4 = 344 and very good

    (3)stream from H7 to a PC VLC results Work perfect

    (4) I'm using Vhannibal Motor Settings

    Thanks

    Before I was thinking Edison have the best tuner but now you prove to me blindscan for ZGEMMA H7S7 is super but the signal strength need to improved small and this problem that i reports to you and i know you will do it. Thanks again 59655765a5d09d44c78d7.jpg

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    Hmmm... You know, 8.86 dB (62%) should work just fine... But the discrepancy in images shows me something is not quite OK with your setup, m8... The signal oscillates quite a bit (H7 from 20% upwards and in Edision+ from 47 to 62%)... You should have a good look into it, it seems to me...


    Most of the time (if the motor/dish is 100% properly installed) one can't do much more, not without a bigger dish, actually...


    One can tinker with the installation, trying to pin point it, the best possible way (and you should, I think)...


    One can change an LNB, skew it better, get better coaxial cable, shorten it...


    But nothing replaces a bigger and better satellite dish...


    Can anyone else compare the results of their setup?


    Cheers!

    "Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-incurred immaturity. Immaturity is the inability to use one's own understanding without the guidance of another. This immaturity is self-incurred if its cause is not lack of understanding, but lack of resolution and courage to use it without the guidance of another. The motto of enlightenment is therefore: Sapere aude! Have courage to use your own understanding!"


    http://www.columbia.edu/acis/ets/CCREAD/etscc/kant.html

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    No, didn't get it, I have nothing in PM Inbox, sorry...


    And thanx for the report! As I suspected: it's probably about the HW...


    But also about various times of day and year - the signal varies and so on... Dunno...


    I lived in Parma for 3,5 year and my reception of 28E was dependent on time of day and year... With Gibertini 1,5m...


    But $ly UK was doing these things deliberately back then, so if you moved 100km the signal was zero and 50 km the other way it was "full on", so actually I do not know for sure what the hell is going on with Ghana package... $ly UK was intentionally making it difficult for people outside UK to receive it....


    On the other hand, you are somewhat closer to the intended area, so your dish is also 1m and the rest of your HW setup is? I mean, LNB, length and quality of cable, switch, it all plays a role...

    "Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-incurred immaturity. Immaturity is the inability to use one's own understanding without the guidance of another. This immaturity is self-incurred if its cause is not lack of understanding, but lack of resolution and courage to use it without the guidance of another. The motto of enlightenment is therefore: Sapere aude! Have courage to use your own understanding!"


    http://www.columbia.edu/acis/ets/CCREAD/etscc/kant.html

    My full setup Is in my signature, mate... More i only can say that my box is connected to my dish with 20 m of Paolini & Messi cable Classe A++.

    Vu+ duo due - Zgemma H9.2H - Motorized system with Amiko DM 3800, LNB Inverto Black Ultra Single and Fracarro 100 cm dish (70,5E to 45W).

    No, all is not in your sig, not really...


    You see, other elements play a role, sometimes a significant role, too...


    Like: switch (some are wasting less signal than others), LNB (from HW quality to skew etc. - no need to explain), details of the cable, like shielding, S/N ratio etc.?


    And then, there is the master installer factor: his knowledge and experience, skills and instruments, time and effort put in, strong winds afterwards, growing trees in the way, spring and blossoming after the winter installation, jolly motor playing up and whatnot... All of those may play a role... ;)

    "Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-incurred immaturity. Immaturity is the inability to use one's own understanding without the guidance of another. This immaturity is self-incurred if its cause is not lack of understanding, but lack of resolution and courage to use it without the guidance of another. The motto of enlightenment is therefore: Sapere aude! Have courage to use your own understanding!"


    http://www.columbia.edu/acis/ets/CCREAD/etscc/kant.html

    Ok.


    - No switch, only one cable from motor to tuner (and, naturally, 1 meter cable from LNB to motor);


    -LNB: https://www.elcoteam.com/privaā€¦le-1-uscita-fracarro.html;


    - Cable: https://messi.it/it/catalogo/cā€¦itali/digisat-5-elite.htm;


    - Dish installation and pointing made by me, after months of trial with the help of GT Media Freesat V8 (https://www.amazon.it/dp/B07G6ā€¦_sw_r_apa_i_2zb1Eb4NJQZRQ), and a lot, a lot of patience and passion ...

    Vu+ duo due - Zgemma H9.2H - Motorized system with Amiko DM 3800, LNB Inverto Black Ultra Single and Fracarro 100 cm dish (70,5E to 45W).

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    Uhhh...


    Nice toyz for da boyz!!! :laugh1::rasta2bigsmoke0gf1:


    https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=Gā€¦ite+Finder&ref=nb_sb_noss


    Esp. https://www.amazon.co.uk/EDISIā€¦der&qid=1590958287&sr=8-9

    "Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-incurred immaturity. Immaturity is the inability to use one's own understanding without the guidance of another. This immaturity is self-incurred if its cause is not lack of understanding, but lack of resolution and courage to use it without the guidance of another. The motto of enlightenment is therefore: Sapere aude! Have courage to use your own understanding!"


    http://www.columbia.edu/acis/ets/CCREAD/etscc/kant.html

    More than enough for me who am not a professional antennist ...:P

    Vu+ duo due - Zgemma H9.2H - Motorized system with Amiko DM 3800, LNB Inverto Black Ultra Single and Fracarro 100 cm dish (70,5E to 45W).

    Please, don't do this! I don't need any kind of emotional blackmail, thanx!


    Besides, I still do not know why this doesn't work or indeed, if it maybe actually works, as others have shown in other Zgemma STBs (guy from Rome)...

    "Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-incurred immaturity. Immaturity is the inability to use one's own understanding without the guidance of another. This immaturity is self-incurred if its cause is not lack of understanding, but lack of resolution and courage to use it without the guidance of another. The motto of enlightenment is therefore: Sapere aude! Have courage to use your own understanding!"


    http://www.columbia.edu/acis/ets/CCREAD/etscc/kant.html

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