my spark stopped responding to channel changing. Menu worked fine, so I upgraded to latest official spark, still no signal and no channel changing. Tried factory default, erased all channels, but when I go to satellite install and configure everything the signal quality moves to 100% (I usually have 93%-96%) and the scan is stuck. I tried the rescue image of older spark version, but it's the same. When I switch to E2 everything works perfectly, (channels, USAL, satellites, etc. Any idea about this problem? Does the Pingulux have two tuners? Any suggestions about a good, stable E2 firmware if my spark is beyond repair?
Problem with Spark
- paranoiac
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Did you try flashing the latest image from USB instead of doing upgrade?
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Did you try flashing the latest image from USB instead of doing upgrade?
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I connected the decoder with hyperterminal and after he booted me from these mistakes:
[MAIN] init finish,errCode=0
[ YWDBASEv_GetData][ 578] error 0x1f40006
[ YWDBL_CommGetVolume][ 288] YWDBLi_CommGetByFldNoWithDefault COMM_VOLUME errTy
pe = 0X1F40006 Unknown
[ YWDBASEv_GetData][ 578] error 0x1f40006
[YWDBLi_ScGetByFieldNo][ 101] YWDBL_GetSysCfgField uFieldNo = 15[YWDBL_ScGetRes
olution][ 496] YWDBLi_ScGetByFieldNo SYSCFG_DEFINITE errType = 0X1F40006 Unknow
n
########################## uiCompSize[0X00AE8BCC]================
[*error*][YWCOLLECT_GetServerUrl:340]Open net_server.xml file failed!
[*error*][YWFILE_IsDbFileOk:562]===Open file[./AppUserDb/syscfg.bin] failed===
[*error*][YWFILE_ReadFlashToDB:816]===Read [./AppUserDb/syscfg.bin] failed, take
[./AppUserDb/syscfgbak.bin] as default===
[*error*][YWFILE_IsDbFileOk:562]===Open file[./AppUserDb/syscfgbak.bin] failed==
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[*error*][YWFILE_ReadFlashToDB:822]===Read [./AppUserDb/syscfgbak.bin] failed, t
ake [./AppUserDb/syscfgdef.bin] as default===
[ YWDBASEv_GetData][ 578] error 0x1f40006
[ YWDBL_CommGetVolume][ 288] YWDBLi_CommGetByFldNoWithDefault COMM_VOLUME errTy
pe = 0X1F40006 Unknown -
If you can boot to enigma, you can try to flash_eraseall the spark partition.
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Display More[root@stlinux]#cat /proc/mtd Example output: dev: size erasesize name mtd0: 00060000 00010000 "NOR U-BOOT : 0xA000.0000-0xA005.FFFF (384KB)" mtd1: 00500000 00010000 "NOR ROOT : 0xA008.0000-0xA07F.FFFF (5MB)" mtd2: 002a0000 00010000 "NOR ROOT : 0xA008.0000-0xA07F.FFFF (2.7MB)" mtd3: 00800000 00020000 "NAND Spark Kernel" mtd4: 17800000 00020000 "NAND Spark Root fs" mtd5: 00800000 00020000 "NAND Enigma2 Kernel" mtd6: 07700000 00020000 "NAND Enigma2 User fs"
Find the mtd partition with the "Spark Root fs" (in this case mtd4)
then run
replacing mtd4 if necessary...The try reflashing from USB.
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If you can boot to enigma, you can try to flash_eraseall the spark partition.
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Display More[root@stlinux]#cat /proc/mtd Example output: dev: size erasesize name mtd0: 00060000 00010000 "NOR U-BOOT : 0xA000.0000-0xA005.FFFF (384KB)" mtd1: 00500000 00010000 "NOR ROOT : 0xA008.0000-0xA07F.FFFF (5MB)" mtd2: 002a0000 00010000 "NOR ROOT : 0xA008.0000-0xA07F.FFFF (2.7MB)" mtd3: 00800000 00020000 "NAND Spark Kernel" mtd4: 17800000 00020000 "NAND Spark Root fs" mtd5: 00800000 00020000 "NAND Enigma2 Kernel" mtd6: 07700000 00020000 "NAND Enigma2 User fs"
Find the mtd partition with the "Spark Root fs" (in this case mtd4)
then run
replacing mtd4 if necessary...The try reflashing from USB.
Thanks joe user,
because they are inexperienced e2 .... then I start to do telnet from those commands?
can you tell me how to do step pèasso?
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yes, telnet to the box and try first command and post the output. "cat /proc/mtd"
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Hello joe user, I did the procedure to hold as described .... but with no signal spark system and does not make me change the channel .... I enclose what I've done from telnet to see if you can fix it.
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Thanks joeuser......I tried (flash_erase / dev / mtd4) does not work ................
I reloaded the boot of pingulux with hyperterminal ... and I put both successivamende Rescue Image Pingulux 1.2.65 ..... then pingulux_edision_1.2.80_app ... but nothing ... and yet Edision_Argus_Pingulux_V1.1.29 _-_ HELP_PACK. ... same result .... -
just wondering spark put a time bomb in there images for clones, for the 8900
so just wondering if yours is a clone
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you can try the clone safe software see if that makes a differance, but its all done at risk
http://linuxsat-support.com/re…fire.com/?8ogbn1vhubcgil6
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Thanks pauldb........no clone is a edision pingulux
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What is the output from the last flash_erase command?
Also, since you have the serial console connected, can you show all the output when you try to flash the pingulux rescue image? -
What is the output from the last flash_erase command?
Also, since you have the serial console connected, can you show all the output when you try to flash the pingulux rescue image?Hello joeuser,
I uploaded spark-buck-1.zip that's what gives me error:
Board: STx7111-Mboard (MB618) [32-bit mode]
info: Disregarding any EPLDU-Boot 1.3.1 (Nov 15 2010 - 17:57:53) - stm23_0043 - YW 1.0.018 Rel
DRAM: 128 MiB
NOR: 8 MiB
NAND: 512 MiB
In: serial
Out: serial
Err: serial
IdentID : 09 00 08 00 00 0e ea
Hit ESC to stop autoboot: 0
## Booting image at a0080000 ...
Image Name: Kernel-Ramdisk-Image
Image Type: SuperH Linux Multi-File Image (gzip compressed)
Data Size: 5867343 Bytes = 5.6 MiB
Load Address: 80800000
Entry Point: 80801000
Contents:
Image 0: 2970211 Bytes = 2.8 MiB
Image 1: 2897119 Bytes = 2.8 MiB
Verifying Checksum ... OK
Uncompressing Multi-File Image ... OK
found phy at addres = 2
found phy at addres = 2
stmac_phy_get_addr(): id1 = 0x0, id2 = 0x8201
stb_id = 90800eea
Loading Ramdisk to 80d3c000, length 002c34df ... OKStarting kernel console=ttyAS1,115200 rw ramdisk_size=6144 init=/linuxrc root=/d
ev/ram0 ip=192.168.0.69:192.168.3.119:192.168.3.1:255.255.0.0:lh:eth0:off stmmac
eth=msglvl:0,phyaddr:2,watchdog:5000 bigphysarea=4000 nwhwconf=device:eth0,hwadd
r:24:00:08:00:0E:EA Manufacture=Spark-Project STB_ID=09:00:08:00:00:0E:EA - 0x00
53d000 - 2897119 ...[MAIN] init finish,errCode=0
[ YWDBASEv_GetData][ 578] error 0x1f40006
[ YWDBL_CommGetVolume][ 288] YWDBLi_CommGetByFldNoWithDefault COMM_VOLUME errTy
pe = 0X1F40006 Unknown
[ YWDBASEv_GetData][ 578] error 0x1f40006
[YWDBLi_ScGetByFieldNo][ 101] YWDBL_GetSysCfgField uFieldNo = 15[YWDBL_ScGetRes
olution][ 496] YWDBLi_ScGetByFieldNo SYSCFG_DEFINITE errType = 0X1F40006 Unknow
n
########################## uiCompSize[0X00AE8BCC]================
[*error*][YWCOLLECT_GetServerUrl:340]Open net_server.xml file failed!
[ YWDBASEv_GetData][ 578] error 0x1f40006
[ YWDBL_CommGetVolume][ 288] YWDBLi_CommGetByFldNoWithDefault COMM_VOLUME errTy
pe = 0X1F40006 Unknown
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________What can I do to fix it?
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That looks like output from booting, I want to see output while flashing from USB to see if it is flashing correctly...
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ok here is to:
Board: STx7111-Mboard (MB618) [32-bit mode]
info: Disregarding any EPLDU-Boot 1.3.1 (Nov 15 2010 - 17:57:53) - stm23_0043 - YW 1.0.018 Rel
DRAM: 128 MiB
NOR: 8 MiB
NAND: 512 MiB
In: serial
Out: serial
Err: serial
IdentID : 09 00 08 00 00 0e ea
Hit ESC to stop autoboot: 3
Force command mode:Select boot (current boot system : spark):
1. spark(up key)
2. enigma2(down key)
3. RS232 Upgrade u-boot(left key)
4. Force into factory mode(right key)
Input Select:
Force Factory mode
(Re)start USB...
USB: scanning bus for devices... 2 USB Device(s) found
scanning bus for storage devices... 1 Storage Device(s) found
reading spark/mImage
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Un-Protect Flash Bank # 1
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NAND erase: device 0 offset 0x800000, size 0x17800000
Skipping bad block at 0x04040000
Erasing at 0x17fe0000 -- 100% complete.
OKNAND write: device 0 offset 0x800000, size 0x6070a40
Bad block at 0x4040000 in erase block from 0x4040000 will be skipped
Writing data at 0x65a4000 -- 100% complete.
101124672 bytes written: OK
Unprotecting Flash...
.. done
Un-Protected 2 sectors
Erasing Flash...
.. done
Erased 2 sectors
Writing to Flash...
........ done
Protecting Flash...
.. done
Protected 2 sectors
0
## Booting image at a0080000 ...
Image Name: Kernel-Ramdisk-Image
Image Type: SuperH Linux Multi-File Image (gzip compressed)
Data Size: 5867343 Bytes = 5.6 MiB
Load Address: 80800000
Entry Point: 80801000
Contents:
Image 0: 2970211 Bytes = 2.8 MiB
Image 1: 2897119 Bytes = 2.8 MiB
Verifying Checksum ... OK
Uncompressing Multi-File Image ... OK
found phy at addres = 2
stmac_phy_get_addr(): id1 = 0x0, id2 = 0x8201
stb_id = 90800eea
Loading Ramdisk to 80d3c000, length 002c34df ... OKStarting kernel console=ttyAS1,115200 rw ramdisk_size=6144 init=/linuxrc root=/d
ev/ram0 ip=192.168.0.69:192.168.3.119:192.168.3.1:255.255.0.0:lh:eth0:off stmmac
eth=msglvl:0,phyaddr:2,watchdog:5000 bigphysarea=4000 nwhwconf=device:eth0,hwadd
r:24:00:08:00:0E:EA Manufacture=Spark-Project STB_ID=09:00:08:00:00:0E:EA - 0x00
53d000 - 2897119 ...[MAIN] init finish,errCode=0
[ YWDBASEv_GetData][ 578] error 0x1f40006
[ YWDBL_CommGetVolume][ 288] YWDBLi_CommGetByFldNoWithDefault COMM_VOLUME errTy
pe = 0X1F40006 Unknown
[ YWDBASEv_GetData][ 578] error 0x1f40006
[YWDBLi_ScGetByFieldNo][ 101] YWDBL_GetSysCfgField uFieldNo = 15[YWDBL_ScGetRes
olution][ 496] YWDBLi_ScGetByFieldNo SYSCFG_DEFINITE errType = 0X1F40006 Unknow
n
########################## uiCompSize[0X00AE8BCC]================
[*error*][YWCOLLECT_GetServerUrl:340]Open net_server.xml file failed!
[*error*][YWFILE_IsDbFileOk:562]===Open file[./AppUserDb/syscfg.bin] failed===
[*error*][YWFILE_ReadFlashToDB:816]===Read [./AppUserDb/syscfg.bin] failed, take
[./AppUserDb/syscfgbak.bin] as default===
[*error*][YWFILE_IsDbFileOk:562]===Open file[./AppUserDb/syscfgbak.bin] failed==
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[*error*][YWFILE_ReadFlashToDB:822]===Read [./AppUserDb/syscfgbak.bin] failed, t
ake [./AppUserDb/syscfgdef.bin] as default===
[ YWDBASEv_GetData][ 578] error 0x1f40006
[ YWDBL_CommGetVolume][ 288] YWDBLi_CommGetByFldNoWithDefault COMM_VOLUME errTy
pe = 0X1F40006 Unknown- - - Updated - - -
That looks like output from booting, I want to see output while flashing from USB to see if it is flashing correctly...
ok here is to:
Board: STx7111-Mboard (MB618) [32-bit mode]
info: Disregarding any EPLDU-Boot 1.3.1 (Nov 15 2010) - stm23_0043 - YW 1.0.018 Rel
DRAM: 128 MiB
NOR: 8 MiB
NAND: 512 MiB
In: serial
Out: serial
Err: serial
IdentID : 09 00 08 00 00 0e ea
Hit ESC to stop autoboot: 3
Force command mode:Select boot (current boot system : spark):
1. spark(up key)
2. enigma2(down key)
3. RS232 Upgrade u-boot(left key)
4. Force into factory mode(right key)
Input Select:
Force Factory mode
(Re)start USB...
USB: scanning bus for devices... 2 USB Device(s) found
scanning bus for storage devices... 1 Storage Device(s) found
reading spark/mImage
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Un-Protect Flash Bank # 1
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Erased 112 sectors
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NAND erase: device 0 offset 0x800000, size 0x17800000
Skipping bad block at 0x04040000
Erasing at 0x17fe0000 -- 100% complete.
OKNAND write: device 0 offset 0x800000, size 0x6070a40
Bad block at 0x4040000 in erase block from 0x4040000 will be skipped
Writing data at 0x65a4000 -- 100% complete.
101124672 bytes written: OK
Unprotecting Flash...
.. done
Un-Protected 2 sectors
Erasing Flash...
.. done
Erased 2 sectors
Writing to Flash...
........ done
Protecting Flash...
.. done
Protected 2 sectors
0
## Booting image at a0080000 ...
Image Name: Kernel-Ramdisk-Image
Image Type: SuperH Linux Multi-File Image (gzip compressed)
Data Size: 5867343 Bytes = 5.6 MiB
Load Address: 80800000
Entry Point: 80801000
Contents:
Image 0: 2970211 Bytes = 2.8 MiB
Image 1: 2897119 Bytes = 2.8 MiB
Verifying Checksum ... OK
Uncompressing Multi-File Image ... OK
found phy at addres = 2
stmac_phy_get_addr(): id1 = 0x0, id2 = 0x8201
stb_id = 90800eea
Loading Ramdisk to 80d3c000, length 002c34df ... OKStarting kernel console=ttyAS1,115200 rw ramdisk_size=6144 init=/linuxrc root=/d
ev/ram0 ip=192.168.0.69:192.168.3.119:192.168.3.1:255.255. 0.0:lh:eth0:off stmmac
eth=msglvl:0,phyaddr:2,watchdog:5000 bigphysarea=4000 nwhwconf=device:eth0,hwadd
r:24:00:08:00:0E:EA Manufacture=Spark-Project STB_ID=09:00:08:00:00:0E:EA - 0x00
53d000 - 2897119 ...[MAIN] init finish,errCode=0
[ YWDBASEv_GetData][ 578] error 0x1f40006
[ YWDBL_CommGetVolume][ 288] YWDBLi_CommGetByFldNoWithDefault COMM_VOLUME errTy
pe = 0X1F40006 Unknown
[ YWDBASEv_GetData][ 578] error 0x1f40006
[YWDBLi_ScGetByFieldNo][ 101] YWDBL_GetSysCfgField uFieldNo = 15[YWDBL_ScGetRes
olution][ 496] YWDBLi_ScGetByFieldNo SYSCFG_DEFINITE errType = 0X1F40006 Unknow
n
########################## uiCompSize[0X00AE8BCC]================
[*error*][YWCOLLECT_GetServerUrl:340]Open net_server.xml file failed!
[*error*][YWFILE_IsDbFileOk:562]===Open file[./AppUserDb/syscfg.bin] failed===
[*error*][YWFILE_ReadFlashToDB:816]===Read [./AppUserDb/syscfg.bin] failed, take
[./AppUserDb/syscfgbak.bin] as default===
[*error*][YWFILE_IsDbFileOk:562]===Open file[./AppUserDb/syscfgbak.bin] failed==
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[*error*][YWFILE_ReadFlashToDB:822]===Read [./AppUserDb/syscfgbak.bin] failed, t
ake [./AppUserDb/syscfgdef.bin] as default===
[ YWDBASEv_GetData][ 578] error 0x1f40006
[ YWDBL_CommGetVolume][ 288] YWDBLi_CommGetByFldNoWithDefault COMM_VOLUME errTy
pe = 0X1F40006 Unknown -
Looks like it is trying to skip the bad block in the flash, but it still gets errors reading. Not sure best way to try and fix. I will write if I think of something...
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Looks like it is trying to skip the bad block in the flash, but it still gets errors reading. Not sure best way to try and fix. I will write if I think of something...
Hello joeuser,
we hope to solve because spark works better than e2
Thank you so much -
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[*error*][YWCOLLECT_GetServerUrl:340]Open net_server.xml file failed! [*error*][YWFILE_IsDbFileOk:562]===Open file[./AppUserDb/syscfg.bin] failed=== [*error*][YWFILE_ReadFlashToDB:816]===Read [./AppUserDb/syscfg.bin] failed, take [./AppUserDb/syscfgbak.bin] as default=== [*error*][YWFILE_IsDbFileOk:562]===Open file[./AppUserDb/syscfgbak.bin] failed== = [*error*][YWFILE_ReadFlashToDB:822]===Read [./AppUserDb/syscfgbak.bin] failed, t ake [./AppUserDb/syscfgdef.bin] as default===
Finally I looked up those errors and they are normal for a first boot because no settings were saved yet, so it uses the defaults.
Are there more errors later?
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[*error*][YWCOLLECT_GetServerUrl:340]Open net_server.xml file failed! [*error*][YWFILE_IsDbFileOk:562]===Open file[./AppUserDb/syscfg.bin] failed=== [*error*][YWFILE_ReadFlashToDB:816]===Read [./AppUserDb/syscfg.bin] failed, take [./AppUserDb/syscfgbak.bin] as default=== [*error*][YWFILE_IsDbFileOk:562]===Open file[./AppUserDb/syscfgbak.bin] failed== = [*error*][YWFILE_ReadFlashToDB:822]===Read [./AppUserDb/syscfgbak.bin] failed, t ake [./AppUserDb/syscfgdef.bin] as default===
Finally I looked up those errors and they are normal for a first boot because no settings were saved yet, so it uses the defaults.
Are there more errors later?
I redid the procedure ....... stayed connected over an hour
The result:Board: STx7111-Mboard (MB618) [32-bit mode]
info: Disregarding any EPLDU-Boot 1.3.1 (Nov 15 2010 - 17:57:53) - stm23_0043 - YW 1.0.018 Rel
DRAM: 128 MiB
NOR: 8 MiB
NAND: 512 MiB
In: serial
Out: serial
Err: serial
IdentID : 09 00 08 00 00 0e ea
Hit ESC to stop autoboot: 3
Force command mode:Select boot (current boot system : spark):
1. spark(up key)
2. enigma2(down key)
3. RS232 Upgrade u-boot(left key)
4. Force into factory mode(right key)
Input Select:
Force Factory mode
(Re)start USB...
USB: scanning bus for devices... 2 USB Device(s) found
scanning bus for storage devices... 1 Storage Device(s) found
reading spark/mImage
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Un-Protect Flash Bank # 1
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Erased 112 sectors
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...................................101124672 bytes read
NAND erase: device 0 offset 0x800000, size 0x17800000
Skipping bad block at 0x04040000
Erasing at 0x17fe0000 -- 100% complete.
OKNAND write: device 0 offset 0x800000, size 0x6070a40
Bad block at 0x4040000 in erase block from 0x4040000 will be skipped
Writing data at 0x65a4000 -- 100% complete.
101124672 bytes written: OK
Unprotecting Flash...
.. done
Un-Protected 2 sectors
Erasing Flash...
.. done
Erased 2 sectors
Writing to Flash...
........ done
Protecting Flash...
.. done
Protected 2 sectors
0
## Booting image at a0080000 ...
Image Name: Kernel-Ramdisk-Image
Image Type: SuperH Linux Multi-File Image (gzip compressed)
Data Size: 5867343 Bytes = 5.6 MiB
Load Address: 80800000
Entry Point: 80801000
Contents:
Image 0: 2970211 Bytes = 2.8 MiB
Image 1: 2897119 Bytes = 2.8 MiB
Verifying Checksum ... OK
Uncompressing Multi-File Image ... OK
found phy at addres = 2
stmac_phy_get_addr(): id1 = 0x0, id2 = 0x8201
stb_id = 90800eea
Loading Ramdisk to 80d3c000, length 002c34df ... OKStarting kernel console=ttyAS1,115200 rw ramdisk_size=6144 init=/linuxrc root=/d
ev/ram0 ip=192.168.0.69:192.168.3.119:192.168.3.1:255.255.0.0:lh:eth0:off stmmac
eth=msglvl:0,phyaddr:2,watchdog:5000 bigphysarea=4000 nwhwconf=device:eth0,hwadd
r:24:00:08:00:0E:EA Manufacture=Spark-Project STB_ID=09:00:08:00:00:0E:EA - 0x00
53d000 - 2897119 ...[MAIN] init finish,errCode=0
[ YWDBASEv_GetData][ 578] error 0x1f40006
[ YWDBL_CommGetVolume][ 288] YWDBLi_CommGetByFldNoWithDefault COMM_VOLUME errTy
pe = 0X1F40006 Unknown
[ YWDBASEv_GetData][ 578] error 0x1f40006
[YWDBLi_ScGetByFieldNo][ 101] YWDBL_GetSysCfgField uFieldNo = 15[YWDBL_ScGetRes
olution][ 496] YWDBLi_ScGetByFieldNo SYSCFG_DEFINITE errType = 0X1F40006 Unknow
n
########################## uiCompSize[0X00AE8BCC]================
[*error*][YWCOLLECT_GetServerUrl:340]Open net_server.xml file failed!
[*error*][YWFILE_IsDbFileOk:562]===Open file[./AppUserDb/syscfg.bin] failed===
[*error*][YWFILE_ReadFlashToDB:816]===Read [./AppUserDb/syscfg.bin] failed, take
[./AppUserDb/syscfgbak.bin] as default===
[*error*][YWFILE_IsDbFileOk:562]===Open file[./AppUserDb/syscfgbak.bin] failed==
=
[*error*][YWFILE_ReadFlashToDB:822]===Read [./AppUserDb/syscfgbak.bin] failed, t
ake [./AppUserDb/syscfgdef.bin] as default===
[ YWDBASEv_GetData][ 578] error 0x1f40006
[ YWDBL_CommGetVolume][ 288] YWDBLi_CommGetByFldNoWithDefault COMM_VOLUME errTy
pe = 0X1F40006 Unknown___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
It seems the same thing ......
thank you -
And what about rebooting without flashing and viewing the output?
There is a way to get more output, but it involves changing the u-boot environment.
Safest way is through the serial port, other way is from enigma2.
First step would be to boot to enigma, telnet to box and run:
and post the output (it will be long.)
BTW - to post long output use the "code" button (#) and paste between the tags:
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