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Holy Moley!!!

ok thanks will do that! (possibly tomorrow, possibly Saturday - depending on weather) < Currently -1 here

Be Watney.
"Science the s**t out of it"

so something like this then? Varnished Cold-pressed steel Equal L-shaped Angle profile, (L)1m (W)27mm | DIY at B&Q

The good Lordeth gaveth you a braineth in your gourd. You figure it out.
Make it work. Then make it pretty. It ain't-a-gonna'-lick-itself.
I can think of 47 ways to get the preliminary alignment done.
Screw the L-shaped stuff. That's why God gave us washers and spacers.
Mine works perfectly from 131 W all the way out to 30 W.
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so drill holes like this? (found on satsuk)

this quote was attached:

"In the UK the extenders need to be at the top, which is why I needed to drill the 2 holes. I hope this makes it clearer."

"I have altered aceb's photo to show you where I had to drill the holes.

In aceb's photo he has switched the bottom bracket, with the top, so although the arrows are drawn on the top bracket, on my motor, and those shipped, this bracket is at the bottom, tha same as you currently have it set up."

"The blue arrows are where the original holes are, the red are where I drilled new holes, in the silver bracket, about half way between the original and the front of the bracket. This solved all my problems as I could then fit the original, stronger, bolts, and the adapter plate fitted as it should.

This motor seems to be for the American market and so the extension brackets, as used in America, would go on the bottom, and not the top, which means they would have no problem in the USA. In the UK the extenders need to be at the top, which is why I needed to drill the 2 holes.

I hope this makes it clearer."

from the post on satsuk

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Holy Moley!!!

ok thanks will do that! (possibly tomorrow, possibly Saturday - depending on weather) < Currently -1 here

Be Watney.
"Science the s**t out of it"

so something like this then? Varnished Cold-pressed steel Equal L-shaped Angle profile, (L)1m (W)27mm | DIY at B&Q

The good Lordeth gaveth you a braineth in your gourd. You figure it out.
Make it work. Then make it pretty. It ain't-a-gonna'-lick-itself.
I can think of 47 ways to get the preliminary alignment done.
Screw the L-shaped stuff. That's why God gave us washers and spacers.
Mine works perfectly from 131 W all the way out to 30 W.
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well thats nout like mine is it

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Holy Moley!!!

ok thanks will do that! (possibly tomorrow, possibly Saturday - depending on weather) < Currently -1 here

Be Watney.
"Science the s**t out of it"

so something like this then? Varnished Cold-pressed steel Equal L-shaped Angle profile, (L)1m (W)27mm | DIY at B&Q

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Holy Moley!!!

ok thanks will do that! (possibly tomorrow, possibly Saturday - depending on weather) < Currently -1 here

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@supwiddiss    do you know this expression FFS look at the pic in post 119.

yes i mean if he edited my pics it would make more sense to me than just making other graphics

ps the black bags at the bottom of the dish mount have stones in them while i wait for slabs to be delivered, they are just on there temp

I understand FFS as much as the IDGAF biker tee shirt I have.
And the chickies shirt that reads "it won't lick itself".

Pallets and bags for a dish mount is super lame btw. Perhaps for a fixed dish where a nudge here or there is marginally acceptible.
But for a polar mount. No frikkin' way.

see this picture from underneath the dish? see it wont reach the bottom mounting plate thats because i took the mounting brackets off and attached the plate to the motor and as u can see it DOESNT REACH thats why they are needed! &

also FYI They dont reach the other way either !! (small bit at the top, big end on the motor mounting arm aka the gold part, already tried that!!!!

so how am i ment to correct it exactly?

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@supwiddiss    do you know this expression FFS look at the pic in post 119.

yes i mean if he edited my pics it would make more sense to me than just making other graphics

ps the black bags at the bottom of the dish mount have stones in them while i wait for slabs to be delivered, they are just on there temp

I understand FFS as much as the IDGAF biker tee shirt I have.
And the chickies shirt that reads "it won't lick itself".

Pallets and bags for a dish mount is super lame btw. Perhaps for a fixed dish where a nudge here or there is marginally acceptible.
But for a polar mount. No frikkin' way.

Well for a start being off the ground is better due to it being away from the shed (so it can move left and right) aka east and west), and so i can get round it aswell you know

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Dan. Nope. Not cool.
If you cannot attain the angles needed.
Try removing the dish mounting bracket and turn it over 180 degrees.

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Cant take the 2 brackets off as the dish plate will NOT REACH THE TOP AND BOTTOM Plates i already tried it!! Dont ask why they wont reach because i already tried it and it wouldn't reach (see this pic) and

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Dan I saw all the pics that's why I asked for ones with a spirit level . That dish is only secure when the pole supporting it is bolted to the ground and I can assure you its not level and that's from your pic. I cant see the end of your garden so have no idea if there are any obstructions so a pic from just behind dish would be perfect. Any trees in the way? or houses. I would never install a dish that low down unless it was in a field. And I would struggle to align yours in present state.

Can I ask why did you buy a channel master???

already tried that, ground is flat, everything is level, fence opposite side of dish yes, hence it on a pallet now, i brought the cm dish and im going to use it for feed hunting!

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I requested photos also. Why?
I searched for your H-H mount and came up with several different brands of dished mounted to them.
And every single one had the geometry setup differently. Every offset dish does not have the 22.5 degree offset like your does.
I saw one with a prime focus dish mounted. It was the easiest setup of all.
I stayed up late compiling a set of graphics. This is as clear as it can be.
You will need an accurate way to measure angles. As mentioned I have one. A nice little digital angle gauge with magnetic base.
So far so good?
Here we go. Going to start with comparisons of a Prime focus dish and yours. "Same, but different"

Polar Before Declination.jpg

Here is a prime focus dish bolted to your H-H motor. The motor shaft will be set to the 0 reference. It is assumed you have the mount aligned to true south.

With the declination adjuster set at 0.

The degree indicator by the ground pole is set for your latitude.
Measuring the indicated red angles and the black dish mounting plate angles have to equal the latitude settings. Also indicated on the latitude setting bolt by the ground pole.
The red angles and black mounting plate angle has to be set for your latitude. As close as you are able to.
Nothing else matters right now.

Polar Before Declination.jpg

Here the latitude angles have been set and all of the adjustable mounts are tightened.
Look at the satellite arc. The dish is aimed above the satellites in it. We haven't added declination yet.
When we do add the proper declination angle, the dish will lower and should now be aimed at the satellite arc when it is moved East to West.
So. We now need to add declination.

Polar With Declination.jpg

Using the declination adjuster we look at the scale and lower the dish look angle. It would be a very good idea to put your digital angle gauge on the dish mounting plate for this. Because the stamped numbers on the declination scale will "get you there". A digital gauge will put you spot on.

After declination is added and the bolts(s) tightened. Your geometry should be very very close.
Look at the diagram upper right. See how declination put the bullseye right on the satellite arc?
Exactly what we want. We're ready to look for a satellite signal. Since Thor is your target satellite. It's time to start findng it.

Now. Let's go to setup your offset dish.
Here we go.

Offset Before Offset Adjustment.jpg

Here we have your offset dish mounted to the H-H motor.
Red is still set for your latitude. The black dish mount plate is set at your latitude angle.

But look. The dish look angle is way up there in the sky. See it?
We need to now adjust the mount to compensate for your dish offset.
With the declination indicator set at 0 and tightened. We need to loosen the bolts that will allow the dish to tilt down.
See it? It's "looking" way up in the sky.

So now. Lower the dish angle. Remember. Not with the declination adjuster. With the slotted mounting bracket .
Lower it using your latitude degrees minus the offset angle of 22.5 degrees.
The next graphic shows the results.

Offset After Offset Adjustment.jpg

Here we have what you need after the offset adjustment. The blue wedge represents where the black dish mounting plate should be after using the slotted brackets.
Now we have an offset dish properly setup. The black mounting plate will be angled where the blue wedge is at the back of the dish.
Look at the dish arc graphic. Just like like the polar mount dish. We are tracking above the satellite arc.
We need to now add the correct declination angle.

Offset Offset And Declination.jpgOffset Offset And Declination.jpg

Here we go. What is your correct declination angle? You now need to adjust that.

Using the declination adjustment bolt and scale. Plus your digital gauge. Turn the declination adjustment so the dish lowers an additional 7.5 degrees from where it is right now. Tighten the declination adjuster. Double check your math.

Look at the satellite arc graphic now. Your dish is very close to tracking the arc and the bullseye shows the effects of the angles at the dish.

You are ready to find your target satellite signal.

Every angle you set is correct. But still a little "Fuzzy".

You will move the dish in very small incements. East and West.
Every time you move it just a very little. Lift up and push down on the dish rim.

When you finally locate Thor. Use the E-W movement to get the highest signal.
If the dish need to be raised or lowered. Use the declination adjustment.
But......if the declination adjustment would have to moved a lot. It would be better to loosen the slotted adjustments to do that.
You really need to keep the declination adjustment scale within only a few degrees.

As you try to locate other satellite. Start at ones the closest to Thor first.
Expect to find tracking errors. Use the chart below and think what is happening.

You may find that Thor signal is the highest it can get after you tweak the adjustments.

And the next satellite you locate. You may have to pull up or push down on the dish rim.

It will get worse as you get further away from Thor.

Get a pattern. "Do I have to pull up or push down on the dish to get a better signal?".

A few tips to remember. It's in many polar mount (the type you have) no matter who made them.

Tracking errors higher in the arc. Use the latitude adjustment.

Tracking errors at arc extremes. Use the declination adjusters.

You may have to loosen the whole mount on the pole and turn it a little bit.

It's a delicate dance.

And none of these types of mounts are plug and play. More like plug and patience.

And it's definitely nothing like being Neo and suddenly knowing Kung Fu.

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thanks but how can i tilt the plate? >

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Please. Look at my illustrations. With due diligence. Be Neo.
Your dish mounting plate is already way way too low compared to the latitude indicators shown in red.
Read. Read. And read again. Please. 5 minutes to reply tell me you did not digest all of the steps needed by your.

Do you see how the dish mounting plate that the dish is fastened to is nowhere close to the angle of the motor pivot shaft?

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I Read it yes......

FYI I CANT SEE THE MOUNT IN THEM PICS YOU POSTED!!

replied fast yes......

still understand it........ NO

if you LOOK AT MY PICS YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN!!

I TRIED TO TILT IT BACK IT WONT TILT BACK..... so how do u expect me to "tilt it back"????

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@supwiddiss    do you know this expression FFS look at the pic in post 119.

yes i mean if he edited my pics it would make more sense to me than just making other graphics

ps the black bags at the bottom of the dish mount have stones in them while i wait for slabs to be delivered, they are just on there temp

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I requested photos also. Why?
I searched for your H-H mount and came up with several different brands of dished mounted to them.
And every single one had the geometry setup differently. Every offset dish does not have the 22.5 degree offset like your does.
I saw one with a prime focus dish mounted. It was the easiest setup of all.
I stayed up late compiling a set of graphics. This is as clear as it can be.
You will need an accurate way to measure angles. As mentioned I have one. A nice little digital angle gauge with magnetic base.
So far so good?
Here we go. Going to start with comparisons of a Prime focus dish and yours. "Same, but different"

Polar Before Declination.jpg

Here is a prime focus dish bolted to your H-H motor. The motor shaft will be set to the 0 reference. It is assumed you have the mount aligned to true south.

With the declination adjuster set at 0.

The degree indicator by the ground pole is set for your latitude.
Measuring the indicated red angles and the black dish mounting plate angles have to equal the latitude settings. Also indicated on the latitude setting bolt by the ground pole.
The red angles and black mounting plate angle has to be set for your latitude. As close as you are able to.
Nothing else matters right now.

Polar Before Declination.jpg

Here the latitude angles have been set and all of the adjustable mounts are tightened.
Look at the satellite arc. The dish is aimed above the satellites in it. We haven't added declination yet.
When we do add the proper declination angle, the dish will lower and should now be aimed at the satellite arc when it is moved East to West.
So. We now need to add declination.

Polar With Declination.jpg

Using the declination adjuster we look at the scale and lower the dish look angle. It would be a very good idea to put your digital angle gauge on the dish mounting plate for this. Because the stamped numbers on the declination scale will "get you there". A digital gauge will put you spot on.

After declination is added and the bolts(s) tightened. Your geometry should be very very close.
Look at the diagram upper right. See how declination put the bullseye right on the satellite arc?
Exactly what we want. We're ready to look for a satellite signal. Since Thor is your target satellite. It's time to start findng it.

Now. Let's go to setup your offset dish.
Here we go.

Offset Before Offset Adjustment.jpg

Here we have your offset dish mounted to the H-H motor.
Red is still set for your latitude. The black dish mount plate is set at your latitude angle.

But look. The dish look angle is way up there in the sky. See it?
We need to now adjust the mount to compensate for your dish offset.
With the declination indicator set at 0 and tightened. We need to loosen the bolts that will allow the dish to tilt down.
See it? It's "looking" way up in the sky.

So now. Lower the dish angle. Remember. Not with the declination adjuster. With the slotted mounting bracket .
Lower it using your latitude degrees minus the offset angle of 22.5 degrees.
The next graphic shows the results.

Offset After Offset Adjustment.jpg

Here we have what you need after the offset adjustment. The blue wedge represents where the black dish mounting plate should be after using the slotted brackets.
Now we have an offset dish properly setup. The black mounting plate will be angled where the blue wedge is at the back of the dish.
Look at the dish arc graphic. Just like like the polar mount dish. We are tracking above the satellite arc.
We need to now add the correct declination angle.

Offset Offset And Declination.jpgOffset Offset And Declination.jpg

Here we go. What is your correct declination angle? You now need to adjust that.

Using the declination adjustment bolt and scale. Plus your digital gauge. Turn the declination adjustment so the dish lowers an additional 7.5 degrees from where it is right now. Tighten the declination adjuster. Double check your math.

Look at the satellite arc graphic now. Your dish is very close to tracking the arc and the bullseye shows the effects of the angles at the dish.

You are ready to find your target satellite signal.

Every angle you set is correct. But still a little "Fuzzy".

You will move the dish in very small incements. East and West.
Every time you move it just a very little. Lift up and push down on the dish rim.

When you finally locate Thor. Use the E-W movement to get the highest signal.
If the dish need to be raised or lowered. Use the declination adjustment.
But......if the declination adjustment would have to moved a lot. It would be better to loosen the slotted adjustments to do that.
You really need to keep the declination adjustment scale within only a few degrees.

As you try to locate other satellite. Start at ones the closest to Thor first.
Expect to find tracking errors. Use the chart below and think what is happening.

You may find that Thor signal is the highest it can get after you tweak the adjustments.

And the next satellite you locate. You may have to pull up or push down on the dish rim.

It will get worse as you get further away from Thor.

Get a pattern. "Do I have to pull up or push down on the dish to get a better signal?".

A few tips to remember. It's in many polar mount (the type you have) no matter who made them.

Tracking errors higher in the arc. Use the latitude adjustment.

Tracking errors at arc extremes. Use the declination adjusters.

You may have to loosen the whole mount on the pole and turn it a little bit.

It's a delicate dance.

And none of these types of mounts are plug and play. More like plug and patience.

And it's definitely nothing like being Neo and suddenly knowing Kung Fu.

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thanks but how can i tilt the plate? > editing my pics so i "understand" would make it better for me! if you look there isnt a way to "tilt the plate" due to the fact its impossible (LOOK AT MY PICS you will see that)

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It was this post above " Dan can you do pics of how you have mounted all the rig? is it on a concrete base and bolted to the ground If its on a pole hold a spirit level on the vertical to show its dead straight and then on the mounting brackets on the horizontal to show its dead level. Then you can start aligning the rig."

No worries best of luck.

its not bolted to the ground its mounted to a pole which has a base attached, which is sitting on a wooden pallet, (see pic)

this picture was taken yesterday, the bags of stones at the bottom is temporary!!

yes its straight and level aswell!!

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Dan, is it possible to take a few pics of the rig as I requested? Its actually quite difficult to give guidance wiithout actually seeing the setup. Lets put it this way, imagine your sat rig is a gun, then it has to aim dead straight at each satellite, and the face of the dish has to be s square. The best way to show it is by referencing the 3 dots. If you are out by 1% you miss the satellite by 68 miles!! And you should have set the dish up on its own first and line up 0.8w but...

Would you pay to have it done correctly? And you could have got a Gilbertini 1.25m that is just as good, its light, and it can be set up using USALS .

Put it this way if you have every angle 100% correct and the rig is crooked you are wasting your time.

I have they are on pages 1 & 4 or 5

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Hi everyone, for any metal DIYer, it's not complicated to make a part like that, you could even have made it yourself with a drill and a vice to bend it....

It may be easy to make for someone who has done this before but i wanted a perfect bracket. I dont have any metal knolwledge, tools or patience to attempt it. Given the fact i got it done proper and for free in less than 24 hours makes me a very happy guy.

Update:

Got em sprayed up now, all complete :)

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did u attach the plate to the dish already?

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Hi everyone, for any metal DIYer, it's not complicated to make a part like that, you could even have made it yourself with a drill and a vice to bend it....

It may be easy to make for someone who has done this before but i wanted a perfect bracket. I dont have any metal knolwledge, tools or patience to attempt it. Given the fact i got it done proper and for free in less than 24 hours makes me a very happy guy.

Update:

Got em sprayed up now, all complete :)

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when are you going to attach it to your dish and set it all up?

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Not sure but sooner rather than later hopefully.

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and u are in the uk yes? i wonder if u will get yours aligned correctly the first time, are u doing it yourself or getting someone to do it for you?

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Dish Setup Data:

Motor Latitude (Elevation): 52.8°

Declination Angle: 7.5°

Dish Elevation: --° < what about this??

Dish Elevation would be shown if you were searching for a satellite. We are setting the initial geometry of the dish and mount.
So once the H-H (polar) mount is set up correctly. Elevation will follow the arc spot on.
Remember that for a single satellite on a fixed pole (non motorized). We need to know the azimuth and elevation.
Got it? Yes/No??

Silly Questions i guess:

Do i set my Declination Angle: 7.5° ? < there isnt a 7.5 as it only goes 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 < so should i set it to 7 instead??

The answer is yes. "Interpolate" it. Guess. You have 7 and you have 8.
7.5 is right in the middle of 7 and 8.
Please set that scale to zero until you get the dish bolted down.

After the proper 22.5 degree offset (reflection angle) is set.
Afterwards we can then add the 7.5 degrees.
That should be the very last step.

Do i now set my Motor Latitude (Elevation): 52.8°?? < there isn't a 52.8° as it only goes 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55,60,65,70,75,80,85,90 < so should i set it to 52 or 53 instead??

52.8 is pretty darned close the middle of 50 and 55. Why not set it in between them? I would.

im only asking so i know, and i guess because it says 7.5 (Declination) some how i have to work out how to set it to that??? and the same for the Motor Latitude (Elevation) to 52.8 (work out where 52.8 is)?? or ....

Don't forget. The 7.5 degrees declination will only come into play once you get the dish reflection angle (offset angle) correct.
That is why there are all of the slotted adjustments on the dish mounting hardware.
Again. Declination will be the very last thing we worry about here.
Let's not put the cart in front of the horse.

and you are saying my dish should be pointing down to the grass when its correctly aligned? does my dish need to go even higher then?....

Nooooo. Not down to the grass. But 22.5 degrees lower than the elevation angle.
So. You have the elevation set as close to 52.8 as you can. Right?
And the motor shaft is set at 0. Yes?
And the dish, if you were able to put the gears of the motor in neutral to swing it over the arc.
It is as high in the arc as it will go. Right?
And you lay a long straight stick from the top of the dish rim to right in between the lnb bracket on the bottom of the dish rim.
Use your angle gauge. And angle it down towards the grass.
The angle to set it at?
What is that?
Elevation (latitude) angle minus reflection (offset) angle.
What is 52.8 minus 22.5?
Not aimed in the grass. No. But lower than if the dish face was angle was set the same as the elevation. Bolt it down there.
Then we add declination. You will use the actual adjustment bolt between the dish mounting bracket to set that.
That will make the dish another 7.5 degrees lower. Not in the grass. But lower, yes.
Got it? Yes/No??

just so im 10000% clear... is this correct for tracking the arc starting at/aligning to Thor 0.8w??
It is the correct procedure to start the align for Thor.
The rule is always "After setup of the dish mount, aim for the satellite closest to true South of your location"
So if Thor is your satellite closest to true South. That's where we start.

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The angle gauge closest to the pole is the angle of the motor shaft that turns the dish through the arc.
Yes? No?

The metal plate that the fiberglass dish is mounted to starts out at the exact same angle that the motor shaft is.
And the declination adjustment in between the slotted dish mount is set at 0.
Yes? No?

The specifications for your fiberglass dish states that it "sees" satellites 22-1/2 degrees higher than the rear mounting plate.
With the plate angle set exactly the same as the motor (elevation) angle.
The metal plate would be "looking" at satellites in the sky.
But the dish itself with the LNBF on the bottom of it is "looking" at satellites higher in the sky.
So you have to lower the dish 22-1/2 degrees. Using the adjustable slotted brackets.
Yes? No?

.........ever play pool/billiards? hit the cueball straight on at the rail? the cueball bounces off of the rail and comes right back at you. if you hit the cueball at an angle off of the rail, it bounces away on the table at the same angle it was struck.

See Again its different Declination and Elevation.....

Yes! I would like clear photos of as good of a side view of you dish, motor, side view of it all that just fits the frame.
Side view of the dish mounted to the plate.
A perfect side view of the motor showing the angle scale with the motor shaft included in it.
Please.

And also if you would. Copy this and 'paste it without formatting' in future replies if you could. Please.

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so i have now set the elevation to 52.8° ... well best i could do anyway

and set the Declination Angle: 7.5° ... well best i could do anyway

"After the proper 22.5 degree offset (reflection angle) is set." < how do i do that bit? with the INCLINOMETER (still not arrived yet) < possibly tomorrow or Saturday hopefully

did i do it all correctly? < just and fyi changing my elevation to 52.8 (or close as i could get it) its pointing forward towards the neighbours fence.... i have tried to point the dish down abit but obviously i cant do that any ideas?? because from where i am theres no way to point it further down other than to change the elevation so its at the very bottom of the screw which means .....

theres NO WAY TO POINT THE DISH DOWN < so how can i?....

Ok, so according to dishpointer.com, when i selected my longitude and latitude and clicked Motorized Systems and clicked True South/True North

Satellite Data:

Name: True South / True North
Distance: 38642km

Dish Setup Data:

Motor Latitude (Elevation): 52.8°
Declination Angle: 7.5°

Dish Elevation: --° < what about this??

Silly Questions i guess:

Do i set my Declination Angle: 7.5° ? < there isnt a 7.5 as it only goes 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 < so should i set it to 7 instead??

Do i now set my Motor Latitude (Elevation): 52.8°?? < there isn't a 52.8° as it only goes 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55,60,65,70,75,80,85,90 < so should i set it to 52 or 53 instead??

im only asking so i know, and i guess because it says 7.5 (Declination) some how i have to work out how to set it to that??? and the same for the Motor Latitude (Elevation) to 52.8 (work out where 52.8 is)?? or ....

and you are saying my dish should be pointing down to the grass when its correctly aligned? does my dish need to go even higher then?....

just so im 10000% clear... is this correct for tracking the arc starting at/aligning to Thor 0.8w??

See Again its different Declination and Elevation.....

@supwiddiss, @jenseneverest

Nice Picture BTW Looks good think i get that picture now......

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Firstly. No attitude. No 85 point font. Not shouting. The mental block is yours. The frustration is also.
This is why your post in satelliteguys was nixed.
There are a few concepts you have to understand that you are just not getting.
Because your post is so fragmented. List the post #'s you wish me to read.

Firstly. Go to dishpointer and enter your location.
Then from the list select Motorized True South / True North.
Set your motor elevation to what youScreenshot 2024-01-17 at 14-00-50 DishPointer - Align your satellite dish.png are given for your latitude. Lock it down.
Assure the dish is pointed true South. Not magnetic south as you would get using a magnetic compass.

Your H-H mount is designed for both prime feed (LNBF at the center of the dish) and offset feed dishes (Like yours).
Different offset dishes have different offset (reflection) angles.
Hence the funky mounting bracket.

The point at the grass thing is to open up your mind. It was not meant to be stupid. It was to try to explain to you why you need to mount your dish on the mount so that the reflection angle is equal to the elevation adjustment.
Because if you set the dish mounting plate equal to the elevation of the motor.
Your dish will be pointed 22.5 degrees higher in the sky.
You MUST lower the whole dish by 22.5 degrees to get the reflection correct.

Please look at and absorb the graphic.
If you lived at the equator (of course you don't, I know).
And you mounted a prime focus dish. Which reflects directly off of the face of the dish. Picture a magnifying makeup mirror.
At the equator the elevation (latitude) is 0. So a dish of this type would be mounted facing straight up in the sky.

If we put your dish on the mount the same way. It would be reflecting at an angle. 22.5 degrees for yours.
So what do your do? You tip it so the LNB and entire face of the dish is 22.5 degrees lower.
Then it too will be reflecting straight up in the sky.
And FYI. If you did live on the equator. That is exactly how your dish would be mounted.
When you steer it across the arc. It would swing directly overhead East to West.

And that is why you need to get your reflecting angle on your mount to be the same as your latitude.
Then you add the correct amount of declination with the adjustable bolt with degree scale closest to the dish you mentioned.

No sir. I am not being rude at all. Do not take it that way.
You wanted illustrations, you got them.PrimeRefReference.jpg

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Ok thanks i will go back on dishpointer and will set my dish to what it says with the info u just posted

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Next week, much better weather and much better temperature expected in the UK. :D

We can only hope,Fingers crossed

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Dan i get that, that is why i was trying to keep it simple.

Believe me when i say supwiddiss was not being rude, i have had many dealings with him over the years and he is a very clever "dude" with this stuff.

Everyone here is trying to help, but the difference between a quick half baked quick install and a good calculated one is massive - especially if you want to use you new dish for feeds - some of those feeds have very weak signals.

When you can, please take some pics of both your dish and your neighbours fence so we get an idea if that fence may be an issue or not ?

Give this a rest for a few days untill you get your inclinometer, then set out on a sunny day with a plan to do this methodically..... its bloody minus 5 in the morning lol.

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Ok, well after work when its sunny i go outside, in the mornings i work so, yea i want to be able to start at thor 0.8w and track the arc, and i want to be able to get and lock onto feeds on most of them aswell, so am i now changing my deinclination to 0 & elevation to 22.5?? Might do it tomorrow if its nice