I'm guessing it has to do with the 5G NR rollover. I'm guessing the sub-4ghz NA transponders will eventually be switched to other higher frequencies or disabled as stuff gets rearranged to fit the new bands...since Verizon is taking over a chunk of the c-band.
Posts by ilikenwf
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I'm just not picking up 3940 H at all anymore, or the other sub 4ghz tps. I'll look at that site; hope it updates more than lyngsat.
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So is it just my alignment or is 3940 H on 127W and all the other local channels that are also on 125W not showing up anymore, just reelz and the other named channels?
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That worked, but I find adding their group hash seems to be easier to make it work.
Thank you very much! I did have to adjust group number, but:
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Display MoreP 30E30F2D GROUP 1127 ; BBC NA HD S2, 127.0W, 4100 H 30000 P 1127FFFF 00 4013DC43EEC9BB ; added by Emu Mon Apr 29 14:18:08 2024 UA: 004D90AC P 1127FFFF 01 E0BB37D23D156E ; added by Emu Mon Apr 29 14:18:08 2024 UA: 004D90AC P 1127 006509BD 4F20F70404DD09 ; EMM Key P 1127 005B5C54 335EA1656C5F73 ; added by Emu Tue Nov 8 21:04:52 2022 UA: 005B5C54 P 1127 005B5C54 12B7A4DF9A689E ; added by Emu Tue Nov 8 2022 UA: 005B5C54 P 1127 0059699D B476CB29F149BF ; added by Emu Thu Sep 1 22:11:22 2022 UA: 0059699D P 1127 00553B46 332A6D1006ED10 ; EMM Key P 1127 0054FFEE D313D80D6F8481 ; ----- Active 12/18/2022 P 1127 004F8849 4550B157D61DBF ; BBC NA HD 127W-4100H30000 P 1127 004E9615 E0985E6CEF3484 ; EMM Key 4100 P 1127 004D90AC 021FEF1C403448 ; EMM Key [Valid, bbc1226.txt]
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Anybody have working keys for 4100 H on 127W? That's BBC NA HD S2 - however none of the keys I have found or tried work.
I guess if I need to I can learn how to dump the EMM and run pvhe (or if you have any linux specific tools that do the same let me know) to find it.
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So he did these as individual videos but later cut them all together...
Peter's great and I wouldn't be surprised if he lurks here.
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I ended up just using the "secret menu" in this cheapo satfinder (like $38 on aliexpress, sometimes cheaper) to open and export the softcam.key from it, and those "auto ecm keys" are all it has from the factory, and they're just PV keys from what I can tell, I think EMM but if not, I guess it just tries all of those in sequence?
It has the ability to accept more keys, but just this setup is somehow enough for it to autoroll, so I suspect that list may be known "common" and default keys pehaps, considering they're using 0000 for all of them, with a slot 0 and slot 1? Format is weird:
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Display More#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*# Auto ECM Key #*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*# P 0000 00 9D64DB7E2D4E90;2330:04120:30000:V P 0000 01 A35D6C7CC2FBE1;2330:04120:30000:V P 0000 00 009077F728E1EF;2270:04180:30000:V P 0000 01 009077F728E1EF;2270:04180:30000:V P 0000 00 FD8A1A343A1BD0;2330:04080:29269:V P 0000 01 25281B3C220451;2330:04080:29269:V P 0000 00 2107DE0F85DD84;2330:04015:04444:V P 0000 01 986D39E3CB3424;2330:04015:04444:V P 0000 00 0F1BD579C4312E;2370:04053:17499:H P 0000 01 12179D780F8856;2370:04053:17499:H P 0000 00 178B5301892F90;0019:11730:30000:H P 0000 01 C40DCB63AABAE9;0019:11730:30000:H P 0000 00 5EA93E50196F49;2350:04160:30000:H P 0000 01 51BB1D53EF14A8;2350:04160:30000:H P 0000 00 AF38CBD5C28B14;2350:04159:30000:H P 0000 01 9F8299CE223620;2350:04159:30000:H P 0010 00 B0B8E34956A2D5;1830:03717:07500:H ; P 0010 01 248C2848BDCE79;1830:03717:07500:H ;
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I would forget nv and instead look at pv.
I was up late, I was struggling with 127W and found most of my troubles to be config related; however I still have a few random channels that sometimes will roll and work and other times, most of the time, will either not work at all or will only play back audio on that particular bird. The log output in my previous message is one of those, Revolt HD.
Reelz is the only channel (FTA) I really care about on 127W but the fact that my v8 finder with just a small handful of pv keys (see below) can decrypt those problematic ones that my H7S cannot drives me crazy. A couple of them are gross adult channels but others are just black music and other such channels that roll fine on the handheld v8 finder but not from openatv...happy to share my configs if that really needs to be done.
Here's the powervu EMM keys that v8finder uses:
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Display More#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*# Auto ECM Key #*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*# P 0000 00 9D64DB7E2D4E90;2330:04120:30000:V P 0000 01 A35D6C7CC2FBE1;2330:04120:30000:V P 0000 00 009077F728E1EF;2270:04180:30000:V P 0000 01 009077F728E1EF;2270:04180:30000:V P 0000 00 FD8A1A343A1BD0;2330:04080:29269:V P 0000 01 25281B3C220451;2330:04080:29269:V P 0000 00 2107DE0F85DD84;2330:04015:04444:V P 0000 01 986D39E3CB3424;2330:04015:04444:V P 0000 00 0F1BD579C4312E;2370:04053:17499:H P 0000 01 12179D780F8856;2370:04053:17499:H P 0000 00 178B5301892F90;0019:11730:30000:H P 0000 01 C40DCB63AABAE9;0019:11730:30000:H P 0000 00 5EA93E50196F49;2350:04160:30000:H P 0000 01 51BB1D53EF14A8;2350:04160:30000:H P 0000 00 AF38CBD5C28B14;2350:04159:30000:H P 0000 01 9F8299CE223620;2350:04159:30000:H
So in regard to these "auto ECM keys" that GTMedia uses successfully to descramble almost everything, is there a mechanism in oscam-emu or ncam to auto try these given keys when descrambling is otherwise unsuccessful?
A "catch all and try these until one works or we run out of keys" option? Seems this is how GTMedia is doing it? Seems it could potentially save us all some time since these appear to be mostly "default" keys?
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..switching back to ncam seems to make that work...but again why doesn't it have the option to "auto try" given group EMM keys for a given transponder on a given satellite...or does it?
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For channels with the same service id, the correct ECM key will be detected automatically, but each key needs a unique groupid. If you need different ECM keys for channels with the same service id, make sure they belong to different groups, like in the example:
Ok...good.
That said, are most of the people hunting keys using TBS dvb cards on desktops or are you just grabbing ts streams, extracting EMM, and using povervu home edition or some other tool to find them? I've got a few good GPUs and cpus and could pitch in on that...or at least want to learn how.
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Ok, I figured it out...thank you.
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For the USA lyngsat and satbeams are best - I like 127W and 125W personally...I only really enjoy history and reelz - those are HD on those birds. They have other HD and a lot of SD, otherwise.
I have a 10 footer...it doesn't look bad and my neighbors don't hate it.
I do have an IPTV sub but this is a hobby, and more satisfying...and the HD is better quality.
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And most of the stuff worth watching is pv or fta these days anyway...
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Thanks for the tip.
Currently using ncam, but I assume that the same logic holds true.
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Running into weird issues on 127W where some channels like Revolt HD give me audio but no video, or sometimes neither, with messages like the snippet below. My v8 finder from gtmedia somehow autorolls these without trouble so I don't know if it is an issue with my h7s, openatv, or ncamd:
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Display More2024/05/03 23:21:45 4342BE08 c (ecm) linuxsatsupport (P: 0E00::000B:1771:0000 #ECM_L:40 #CW=00000000000000000000000000000000 HOP:00): not found (2 ms) by newcamd_server (F/6/6/6) - Revolt HD (lg) 2024/05/03 23:21:45 4342BE08 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decoding requests after 0 ms with 1 enabled and 0 disabled ecmpids! 2024/05/03 23:21:45 4342BE08 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 0 CAID 0E00 PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1771 ANY CHID PMTPID 1393 VPID 0456 2024/05/03 23:21:46 790A94AF r (emu) Key not found or invalid: P ****000B 00 (channel hash: D3BEE83E) 2024/05/03 23:21:46 790A94AF r (emu) ECM failed: Key not found 2024/05/03 23:21:46 7665B878 r (emu) Key not found or invalid: P ****000B 00 (channel hash: D3BEE83E) 2024/05/03 23:21:46 7665B878 r (emu) ECM failed: Key not found 2024/05/03 23:21:46 3290A127 r (emu) Key not found or invalid: P ****000B 00 (channel hash: D3BEE83E) 2024/05/03 23:21:46 3290A127 r (emu) ECM failed: Key not found 2024/05/03 23:21:46 757FB0EC r (emu) Key not found or invalid: P ****000B 00 (channel hash: D3BEE83E) 2024/05/03 23:21:46 757FB0EC r (emu) ECM failed: Key not found
You don't have your softcam key file setup properly for this service looking at the log.
Should see your group id something like 1272FFFF .
emu seems to be working properly but we wont know if it opens channels until you get softcam key fixed.a
Assuming I'm a linux guy and programmer who just reentered this hobby after 20 years with nagra being my last fun, can you point me in the right direction for reading material? I don't necessarily need to be spoonfed but I've more or less jumped into the deep end without really learning how to tread water first on some subjects.
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One of the commentators said they still use the method, so I think people still share cards but it may be just between friends or extremely on the DL.
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I suppose I need to go and read up on the docs again about it all again - I've actually just been using the North American SoftCam.Key file from this thread.
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I would forget nv and instead look at pv.
I was up late, I was struggling with 127W and found most of my troubles to be config related; however I still have a few random channels that sometimes will roll and work and other times, most of the time, will either not work at all or will only play back audio on that particular bird. The log output in my previous message is one of those, Revolt HD.
Reelz is the only channel (FTA) I really care about on 127W but the fact that my v8 finder with just a small handful of pv keys (see below) can decrypt those problematic ones that my H7S cannot drives me crazy. A couple of them are gross adult channels but others are just black music and other such channels that roll fine on the handheld v8 finder but not from openatv...happy to share my configs if that really needs to be done.
Here's the powervu EMM keys that v8finder uses:
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Display More#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*# Auto ECM Key #*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*# P 0000 00 9D64DB7E2D4E90;2330:04120:30000:V P 0000 01 A35D6C7CC2FBE1;2330:04120:30000:V P 0000 00 009077F728E1EF;2270:04180:30000:V P 0000 01 009077F728E1EF;2270:04180:30000:V P 0000 00 FD8A1A343A1BD0;2330:04080:29269:V P 0000 01 25281B3C220451;2330:04080:29269:V P 0000 00 2107DE0F85DD84;2330:04015:04444:V P 0000 01 986D39E3CB3424;2330:04015:04444:V P 0000 00 0F1BD579C4312E;2370:04053:17499:H P 0000 01 12179D780F8856;2370:04053:17499:H P 0000 00 178B5301892F90;0019:11730:30000:H P 0000 01 C40DCB63AABAE9;0019:11730:30000:H P 0000 00 5EA93E50196F49;2350:04160:30000:H P 0000 01 51BB1D53EF14A8;2350:04160:30000:H P 0000 00 AF38CBD5C28B14;2350:04159:30000:H P 0000 01 9F8299CE223620;2350:04159:30000:H
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I know that Peter Fairlie on youtube discussed this scene back in the day.
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Running into weird issues on 127W where some channels like Revolt HD give me audio but no video, or sometimes neither, with messages like the snippet below. My v8 finder from gtmedia somehow autorolls these without trouble so I don't know if it is an issue with my h7s, openatv, or ncamd:
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Display More2024/05/03 23:21:45 4342BE08 c (ecm) linuxsatsupport (P: 0E00::000B:1771:0000 #ECM_L:40 #CW=00000000000000000000000000000000 HOP:00): not found (2 ms) by newcamd_server (F/6/6/6) - Revolt HD (lg) 2024/05/03 23:21:45 4342BE08 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 restarting decoding requests after 0 ms with 1 enabled and 0 disabled ecmpids! 2024/05/03 23:21:45 4342BE08 c (dvbapi) Demuxer 0 trying to descramble PID 0 CAID 0E00 PROVID 000000 ECMPID 1771 ANY CHID PMTPID 1393 VPID 0456 2024/05/03 23:21:46 790A94AF r (emu) Key not found or invalid: P ****000B 00 (channel hash: D3BEE83E) 2024/05/03 23:21:46 790A94AF r (emu) ECM failed: Key not found 2024/05/03 23:21:46 7665B878 r (emu) Key not found or invalid: P ****000B 00 (channel hash: D3BEE83E) 2024/05/03 23:21:46 7665B878 r (emu) ECM failed: Key not found 2024/05/03 23:21:46 3290A127 r (emu) Key not found or invalid: P ****000B 00 (channel hash: D3BEE83E) 2024/05/03 23:21:46 3290A127 r (emu) ECM failed: Key not found 2024/05/03 23:21:46 757FB0EC r (emu) Key not found or invalid: P ****000B 00 (channel hash: D3BEE83E) 2024/05/03 23:21:46 757FB0EC r (emu) ECM failed: Key not found
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I should mention I got PowerVu decoding properly now...
The only issue I run into is that despite all things otherwise being equal, my v8 finder somehow finds ~150 channels, the h7s with the current build of openatv does not...while the finder gets all the channel names properly, in addition the h7s also does not...and I've also yet to figure out EPG.
Advice/hints welcome!