Posts by wadey1457

  • SlyUK Anti-CS measures switching off HD Channels

    found this on another site don't know if what thay say is true
    ***'s new pairing doesn't introduce any significant differences to the existing NDS data, that data is still encrypted so only a genuine card can decrypt it, but what it does do is add an additional layer of encryption between the box/card to prevent their cards from being used in card servers like oscam or CCcam (what your c line uses to decrypt channels).


    A new HD box running the latest firmware is able to take the incoming NDS data [ECMs/EMMs] from the MPEG (video) stream and further encrypt it before sending it to the card.


    An old HD box (or an SD box) just continues as it did before, extracting the NDS data from the MPEG stream and feeding it to the card.


    This design allows *** to alter NOTHING to the existing NDS code, which is essential to (a) prevent loggers/hackers from running comparators over logs from the then/now data streams and (b) allow older boxes to work as before.


    Remember, the change has NOT happened at the NDS level, it has happened at the firmware level of both the new HD boxes and the existing cards.


    It's the boxes that are instructed to use the pairing algorithm [or not] for a particular channel(s) [or more accurately, entitlement group/level]


    If you place a card in a new HD box, the card will be instructed to accept the newly encrypted data using the *** box's pairing key...


    If you then move the card back to oscam, it will continue to expect that encrypted data for that channel(s) and try to decrypt it...
    Of course, as the incoming data is NOT encrypted (coming from oscam for example) you'll get nothing worthwhile back..


    So what happens when you put a card back in oscam or put it back in an SD box or an old HD box and leave it..?
    If the card is unable to verify it's running in a new HD box [after x amount of time (or cycles) or following a new install/pairing process], it reverts back to the original system we all know and love, which is of course easy for most to share.
    [I'm sure their lawyers have reminded *** not to enforce a blackout on paying customers for fear of prosecution or maybe *** have acknowledged some people may use their own older boxes in the event of a failure..]


    How long *** allow the card to revert back on the other hand is the question most pay servers should be considering..


    As it stands now the new system does nothing to prevent c/s, however, once *** are happy they have updated all the smartcards (all those EMMs you've been seeing...) and have completed most (if not all) of the box upgrades, expect to see some disruption.


    When this will be, you'll have to ask the boys over at *** (and I'm not talking about their installers / customer support agents here lol)


    Here's a quick overview of both the old and new data exchange:


    Current:
    ECM/EMM Data is fed to the box via the MPEG stream, it then passes it to the card for a response.


    New:
    ECM/EMM Data is fed to the box via the MPEG stream, it then further encrypts the data using a pairing key before passing it on to the card. The card decrypts this in order to then decrypt and process the original ECM/EMM command. The reply is then encrypted [again using the pairing key] and sent back to the box, which then decrypts and executes it.


    Both the original ECM/EMM data and the reply have not changed, the only thing that has changed is the way the data was exchanged between the box and the card..

  • Beefybawz my m8 is a payserver hunter thread

    if you pay £100 for ayear and get every channel its more than payed for its self in the first month.if you got 3 months out of it you should be happy with that. go pay sly the proper money.why are we even talking about it? we don't like pay servers on here but here we are talking about driving 300 miles to smash someones face in who gave you a great deal :)

  • Beefybawz my m8 is a payserver hunter thread

    Quote from Beefybawz

    haha amazing.My m8 does serious doxing.If you dont know what doxing is,its finding out peoples real identity online through really advanced methods.Hes seeing a big amount of people who have purchased these boxes with gifts coming to him already and thats only with some hd channels gone.Looking to find out the real identity of people on ebay and forums etc.wait till the full thing goes.hes waiting in the wings to go onto all these satellite forums and offer his service to anyone who bought one and the seller dissapeared.hes just gonna charge a couple of quid each and will make a fortune.If someone on ebay or that think they used a fake name etc and will be ok then think again.When you visit a site you leave a footprint and his job is tracing that footprint back to you and getting your real details.All i can say is i hope you kept the money you made haha


    who is going to pay him £200 for a box that cost him him £90 with gift?

  • £100 a year fee ? is this normal ?


    sounds like a payserver