Guide to setting up a satellite dish ?

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  • I got a satellite installed passed the wire to my DVB card and everything is nice a tidy, now I need to figure out how to align the satellite to the satellite I want to receive is there a there a guide on how to do this ? I got myself a satellite receiver signal tool too.

  • connect the wire from your receiver to the sat meter and connect the meter with another wire to the lnb, depends on which meter you bought to how it works, if its a cheap audible one move the dish around and the signal gets higher, when it gets really high pitched turn the meter down a bit and then move the dish until it high again, when you cannot get the pitch to go any higher you should have a pretty good signal, i,m new to it and i managed to line it up pretty easy
    you should have got some instruction with the sat meter,you might have to have a read pal for it to work correctly as i can only say how mine worked

  • Ive worked that out but how do I go around pointing it to the exact satellite I am looking for ? If I move it around il pick up like 5 satellites from my location. How do I go around finding out the exact satellite I need to point to ? Like first I set elevation how do i do that ?

  • Interesting thanks a ton mate, But what about elevation how do I work that out ? I think the phone can only work out N S E W not elevation.

  • Hi.
    If you do a Google search for >> Dishpointer <<
    you will find what your looking for in the first link
    Elevation: ??
    Azimuth (true): ??
    Azimuth (magn.): ??
    LNB Skew [?]:
    That is the how i setup my dish
    Hope it's of some Help to you. :goodluck:

  • Ah already came across this I think I didn't make myself so clear in my last post. I am stuck on actually adjusting the elevation on the dish say I wan't to adjust it at 20.6 on my dish. How will I know its actually at that degreese ?


    Thanks for info.

  • The only option is trial and error, start with the dish near vertical and slowly sweep across the arc, if you dont pick up anything adjust dish up or down and slowly sweep across again, and repeat untill you hit the sat you want then fine tune.
    Remember you are trying to point a dish at an object the size of a caravan hundreds of miles away

    110cm Triax Dish multi arm 13,16,19, 23, 28 east fixed 90cm thor

  • any decent dish will have the degrees stamped on the side of the adjusting bracket


    indeed Mulitipack i concur completely, However that is subject to the dish mounting being exactly plumb to start with ¬

    78cm dish on tm2300 metal gear motor + 1m Orb with tm2300 + 1.8m Channel Master on H-H floor mount + 80cm ISS with TM2300 AND Inverto Black LNB,inverto Unicable QUDL 42 LNB,- Global invacom Dscc LNB,- Triax KA LNB, - Yuri LNBF C Band YLF-CDP16C

  • Attempted today can't figure out the elevation in my co ordinates to catch astra I need to set the dish at 48 degrees can't really figure out if its set right. The mounting does not have any markings on it. Any suggestions ? I am picking up many satellites just not the one I want.

  • Use your meter and lock onto a satellite Gotv ! Then connect up your box and perform a channel scan to Establish what satellite you are looking at !
    Make this your reference point ! So for example if you have locked onto hotbird 13e and you want to get to astra you will will have to move the dish very slightly to the Left and down abit !
    But you need a point of reference to work from !
    I know its a long shot but can you see the tv screen from the dish site ?
    I am sure there is an enigma2 phone/stb signalmeter dish finder Plugin/App i have seen mentioned _ Perhaps someone knows exactly .

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  • Use your meter and lock onto a satellite Gotv ! Then connect up your box and perform a channel scan to Establish what satellite you are looking at !
    Make this your reference point ! So for example if you have locked onto hotbird 13e and you want to get to astra you will will have to move the dish very slightly to the Left and down abit !
    But you need a point of reference to work from !
    I know its a long shot but can you see the tv screen from the dish site ?
    I am sure there is an enigma2 phone/stb signalmeter dish finder Plugin/App i have seen mentioned _ Perhaps someone knows exactly .


    Yes this is what I was thinking, but I am connected to a DVB tuner PCI card. Is there a program I can install on my PC to see the current satellite I am connected too ? I would be able to stream my PC from my laptop using teamviewer and see my progress this way. I found a program that checks satellite signal level and quality but it does not say which satellite I am connected too I need to choose the satellite myself.

  • Something I found sometime ago worked for me......



    HOW TO SET UP A MOTORISED DISH
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    Equipment needed.
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    Suitable mounting pole (2" aluminium or steel scaffold pole)
    TK brackets or and L-Bar for mounting a dish to a wall
    U-Bolts
    Spirit Level
    Drill, F-Connectors, spanners, hammer
    Compass & Satellite signal meter



    POSTIONING YOUR DISH
    -------------------
    Please bear in mind that the dish needs to be far enough away from the wall and any other obstacles so that the dish rotates freely. We normally mount the pole using TK brackets or an L-Bar which extend out from the wall by 18 inches.


    You need to be able to rotate the dish between at least 30 degrees east and 30 degrees west of due south, without obstructions such as trees in the way. The furthest point you normally go to the east is the same direction as a *** minidish (28.2 east), you need to be able to rotate the dish by 60 degrees to the west from this point. Standing behind the dish, the west is to the right of a minidish.


    If you can get a clean arc as far as 45 degrees east and 45 degrees west then there are a few more interesting satellites you can receive.


    A good rule of thumb regarding obstructions - if the distance to the obstruction is twice the height of the obstruction you will have no problems. For instance if there is a fence that is 4 feet higher than the base of the dish, and the fence is 8 feet away then that will be OK.


    SETTING UP THE MOUNT
    --------------------
    The first step to setting up a motorised satellite dish is the most important one! The mounting pole that the dish and motor will be fixed to must be exactly vertical!! This point cannot be over stressed. If the dish is mounted on an aluminium tube which is one metre long, and the pole is out of true by as little as one centimetre top to bottom, that is enough to stop the dish tracking properly.


    So step one - Get the mounting pole 100% plumb. Use a spirit level to check this side-to-side and front-to-back.


    SETTING UP THE MOTOR AND DISH
    -----------------------------
    Firstly you need to know your areas latitude and the elevation angle of the dish for the Thor satellite on 1 degree west. This can be done by checking the website below
    http://www.dishpointer.com/
    You need to correctly set the elevation on your dish motor. Most motors are marked with a graduated scale called "Latitude" However some are marked "Elevation"


    If your motor is marked Latitude, then you set the scale to equal the latitude of you location. For example Liverpool is 53.5 degrees North - so set the Latitude on the motor to 53.


    If the motor scale is marked "Elevation" then the correct formula to use is Elevation = 90 minus Latitude. For Liverpool 90 - 53 = 37.


    Having done that, fasten up the bolts on the side of the motor as tight as possible (without breaking them of course!)


    Now you attach the dish to the motor. The motor shaft has a centre line marked on it, and you centre the dish mounting bracket on this line. If you cannot see the centre line with the dish attached, take a length of insulating tape or similar, and use it to extent the cantering line so you can see it. Tighten the dish down so it cannot move side-to-side.


    Now attach the dish and motor assembly to the mounting pole, and tighten down the motor bracket, leave it a little slack so you can rotate the entire motor/dish assembly in the pole.


    INITIAL ALIGNMENT OF THE DISH
    -----------------
    The first thing you need to do is align the dish to the satellite nearest to due south. This satellite in the UK is Thor/Intelsat707 at 1 degree West. Using ProgDVB, load up the channels list for Thor. Open the channels list and click on the channel " Business TV / BTV ". This is a FTA channel that always carries a test screen with a picture of a clock or compass and the marking 1 West.


    Using the dixie plug in, drive the motor to position 0.0 (fixed) the drive the Motor to Thor 1 West


    Now rotate the entire motor/dish assembly to locate this satellite. This is easiest if you use a signal strength meter, or at the very least get your PC outdoors (dry weather only!) and in a position where you can see it! ProgDVB has a signal strength read out on the bottom bar of the TV picture window.


    When you locate this satellite, adjust the elevation on the dish (NOT THE MOTOR!!) to get the strongest signal. For your guidance, Thor is elevated a few degrees higher than Astra. Once you have the strongest signal, lock the dish elevation so it cannot move.


    Now load the channel list for Astra, and using dixie plugin, drive the motor to Astra. Astra is a powerful satellite and you should have no problems finding a picture.


    Go back to your dish, and using the spirit level double check that the mounting pole is still vertical and has not moved under the weight of the dish, otherwise this problem needs to be corrected before continuing.


    Now load the channel list for Hispasat, and using dixie drive the motor to Hispasat. Hispasat is a considerably weaker than Astra. You Should choose one of the Strong channels to test - The FTA channel called "Programaceo" is a good one to use, or also Disney channel. Also we have noticed that motors tend to "overshoot" a little when moving to Hispasat, you may need to tap the EAST button a couple of times to manually drive the dish slightly back to get a good signal. If you can't seem to find a signal on Hispsat at the moment then don't worry about that just now (time for worry comes later hehehe!!)


    Now go and check again that the mounting pole has remained vertical and not moved under the weight of the dish, otherwise this problem needs to be corrected before continuing.


    Now drive the dish back to 1 West (Thor)


    TRACKING THE DISH
    -----------------
    *START*
    First check that you have the strongest possible signal on Thor (Business TV). Do this by grabbing hold of the top and bottom of the dish and gently flexing this dish upward and downward. You should get a worsening signal as you move the dish up - down - left - or right. If this is not he case then loosen the motor brackts and reallign the motor position left right. loosen the dish elevation nuts and alter the dish up and down until you have the best possible signal. when flexing the dish you are not trying to get the strongest signal, just flex it enough to check if the signal gets better or worse in each direction.


    Now drive the dish to Sirius 5 East. Load up the channels list for Sirius and choose "NOVY Canal" You should get a strong signal from this channel - around 90%. Then choose one of the weak transponders on Sirius (Viasat Ticket) These channels are very weak in the UK - even in clear weather conditions on a 1 metre dish you will not get more than about 55% signal on a perfectly aligned dish.


    While on Viasat Ticket, flex the dish up and down slightly to see which gives the best signal strength. Make a note of which direction improves the signal UP or DOWN. You can also try manually driving the dish slightly further east or weat with the EAST WEST buttons.


    Now go back to Hispasat. Choose "Programaceo" Channel. If you are getting little or no signal flex the dish slightly up or down to see which direction gives better signal. Remember that the dish tends to move slightly too far west on Hispasat so you may need to manually drive it slightly back to the east. Again make a note of which gives better signal UP or DOWN.


    If you have a good signal on Hispasat "Programaceo" of say 75% or more - try one of the weaker channels such as "P-Cinema". These channels are again much weaker than others on Hispasat - a well aligned dish gives you around 65-70% signal. Once again flex the dish up and down to wee which direction gives best signal.


    If you can't find Hispasat AT ALL then move your dish to 8 or 15 degrees west and repeat the above process to see which is better reception UP or DOWN and make a note.


    Now drive the dish back again to Thor 1W "Business TV" and check that it is still perfectly aligned and all this "flexing" has not changed the dish elevation. Realign if necessary.


    Now one of 5 possible situations will have occurred. These will be dealt with below. And if you need to adjust the alignment of you dish then remember the next line!


    IMPORTANT - ONLY EVER ADJUST THE DISH/MOTOR WHILE YOU ARE ON THOR 1 WEST


    Situation 1. Dish gives better signal when flexed upwards on both Sirius Ticket and Hispasat P Cinema - in this case you need to DECREASE the elevation of the motor and INCREASE the elevation of the dish to compensate. Realign for strongest signal on Business TV then go to *START*


    Situation 2. Dish gives better signal when flexed downwards on both Sirius Ticket and Hispasat P Cinema - in this case you need to INCREASE the elevation of the motor and DECREASE the elevation of the dish to compensate. Realign for strongest signal on Business TV then go to *START*


    Note Situations 1 and 2 should never arise if you correctly set the motor elevation to your latitude (eg Liverpool - 53 degrees)!!



    Situation 3. (The most common one!!) Dish gives better signal when flexed DOWNWARDS on Sirius Ticket and UPWARDS on Hispasat P Cinema - in this case you need to loosen and rotate the MOTOR a few degrees to the West (Towards HISPASAT) and then tighten up the motor, loosen the dish and rotate the dish back towards the East to compensate. Realign for strongest signal on Business TV then go to *START*


    Situation 4. Dish gives better signal when flexed UPWARDS on Sirius Ticket and DOWNWARDS on Hispasat P Cinema - in this case you need to loosen and rotate the MOTOR a few degrees to the east (Towards SIRIUS) and then tighten up the motor, loosen the dish and rotate the dish back towards the West to compensate. Reallign for strongest signal on Business TV then go to *START*


    5. Well Done! You get perfect alignment on all three points!! No further adjustment required


    by using two very weak signals on Hispsat and Sirius you can get a perfect alignment of your dish - all other satellites are more powerful and you wil have no problem with these.

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