dm920 - FBC tuner issues

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  • I try to explain.

    In my DM920 2 tuners are installed: 1x satellite FBC Twin tuner (2 input), 1x terrestrial Twin tuner (2 input). So I have 2 F connectors and 2 IEC connectors on the back panel.

    The terrestrial tuner works ok, I can use both tuners together for, say, wath a channel and record a different one.

    Instead, the satellite tuner is not recognized correctly. I see 8 tuners in the Tuner Configuration menu (it's ok), but only the first one does work correctly.

    Using the Openvix image I can freely configure the first 2 tuners as I want, leaving the remaining 6 unmodified, so the FBC feature is automatically configured. The same does occur with every OE2.5 images that I tested.

    In other OE2.0 images (I tested Openatv, Satlodge, now this "customized" Openpli), when I configure the second tuner, the configuration is apparently accepted but it does not work: the box gets the satellite signal always from the first F connector, so the receiver can't be used with two different dishes.

    As the Openvix works, how can I move the right files to a different image? Any cut/paste operation is enough maybe? If possible, could you please tell me how to proceeed? Thanks.

  • Just tested but no way. The box does recognize only one tuner (the first, listed as tuner A). The remaining 7, whatever the configuration, do not work, so it is like the second F connector do not exist.

    So the "Equal to" option could be selected only for the first tuner, that's unuseful as I want to use the second one too.

  • Hi,


    You should try, since you're an F-series TV, as you say...using the left and right remote control buttons, set the solution (advanced) and make satellite available...how do I set the system (scr) that Sky uses?


    If I remember, it's at the bottom of the F-series tuner list, the last one could be selected...I did it for a friend...but I don't remember how I did it or which software, whether it was this new OpenPli or the one from the Ferrari team.

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  • What about the FBC tuner problem?

    I mentioned this in another thread today. In many OE2.0 images (other than Openvix) the FBC tuners are not fully supported, and only the first input does work.

    What about here? Anyone tested? As soon as I have a little bit of time I will surely make my test, but if this problem does occur again I can't use this image and it would be a pity.

  • Anybodyelse has the same FBC tuner like me in the DM920?

    This limitation is very annoying, because all these OE2.0 images are not suitable. Bad luck.

    I passed your message to Captain, from OpenATV Team, if something can be done for the open images,


    Got already the reply, we will try to implement,


    [FBC] · openatv/enigma2@5f81b08
    * don't show all DVB-C FBC Tuner * fix connected with list * add input setting for DM9x0 * fix DM9x0 FBC handling (partially taken from openVix)
    github.com


    TS

  • Thank you very very much for your kindness, really appreciated.

    Yes the Openatv image has the same tuner handling problem. The only OE2.0 image working well is the Openvix.

    Could you please explain better this github link you posted?

    Maybe the problem could be solved downloading files from there? Whih file? Thank you again.

  • Thank you very very much for your kindness, really appreciated.

    Yes the Openatv image has the same tuner handling problem. The only OE2.0 image working well is the Openvix.

    Could you please explain better this github link you posted?

    Maybe the problem could be solved downloading files from there? Whih file? Thank you again.

    At what I can understand, since April, this should be fixed on the OpenATV as well, try to test a latest version,


    This is the patch to have it working on the Open images (such as OpenATV), I think Captain compiles it since April with it.


    TS

  • So,if I understand correctly, I can't download any useful file from that Github link, right?

    Visiting that web page, I find only source files, not a real patch.

    So I must wait when the Openatv 7.6 will be officially released?

    • Official Post

    I have the same module but in a DM900. It works fine on ATV, PLI and ViX in my tests. Everybody's setup is different, please explain in detail what the reception hardware (dish, LNB, switch) connected to your receiver is.


    The FBC tuner code in VIx is from PLI. There is obviously no official support by PLI for the Dreambox, so that is a possible issue. The FBC code in ATV should be same as VIX. They moved away from the daisy chaining code they previously had. I do however remember a conversation where I had to stipulate that both physical inputs can have two different LNBs.


    Which exact ATV image ( version and date) are you using?


    Where is your other thread on this forum? Might be an idea to have one thread for this particular issue.

  • I try to tell you any possible information.

    I have a DM920 with two tuners installed: 1x Twin FBC satellite tuner (2 inputs), 1x Twin terrestrial tuner (2 inputs).

    The terrestrial tuner always works well without problems with ALL images.

    The satellite tuner works well ONLY with Openvix, and with every OE2.5 images.

    My dish setup:

    Input 1: dual feed dish (Hotbird + Astra) with a diseqc switch;

    Input 2: motorised dish with a standalone motor controller, so the receiver is configured as a common universal LNB.

    I have different behaviours in the Tuner Configuration menu depending from the installed image.

    Openvix: Tuner A and B are detected as FBC IN 1 and FBC IN 2, and configuring both them as needed (Tuner A: simple mode, dual feed; Tuner B: Advanced mode, Universal LNB for each satellite other than those in the Dual Feed tuner to avoid conflicts). The remaining six tuners are shown as Automatic Inactive, and I never changed them. It does work.

    Every other OE2.0 image: all 8 tuners are identical, all shown as independent tuners like having eight single tuners installed in the box instead of one, so the FBC feature is not recognized. Only the first tuner does work properly. Attempting to configure every tuner other than the first, the configuration in the Menu is accepted and saved but it does not work. In other hands, the firmware does never recognize the second input. I largely tried to configure the remaining seven tuners one by one but no way.

    I hope this helps. Please let me know if you need more information. Thanks.

    • Official Post

    These OE xx numbers are not useful. The images have versions and numbers/dates. It would be better to specify so we know exactly what is being tested.


    Unless you have a unicable LNBs, you cannot independently configure 8 tuners. If you are using universal LNBs, you have two configured tuners. The other 6 are "FBC automatic". FBC automatic just means 'internal loop through" when required.


    Thanks for the description of hardware. I have a dm900 with a satellite FBC tuner, so I should be able to test that for you although I don't have a motorised dish.


    Please don't forget to post the link to your other post.

  • Please note that the only working image is the Openvix 6.7.014, all other images work in the way I explained above.

    I'm not interesting in the FBC feature as I have no Unicable LNBs, so I use only the first 2 tuners in the list.

    As I specified above, the Openvix image does detect the first 2 tuners as FBC IN 1 and FBC IN 2, so I can smoothly configure them for my purpose. The remaining six tuners are shown as FBC Automatic and I don't change them.

    In every other images all tuners are shown in the same way, so no differences between the first 2 and the remaining 6, and as I mentioned only the first one does work.

    This is my situation. Hope this helps. Thanks.

    • Official Post

    I have moved your posts into one thread. I have just tested again and can see the problem. I have communicated with Captain on the OE_A Teams chat. Hopefully he understands the issue.


    You have an FBC tuner, you cannot change that. Th FBC feature you are using when using Universal LNBs is "FBC automatic" which is "Internal loop through, when required". Unicable is a different technology to FBC tuners.


    There is no official PLI support/code for these Dreamboxes. For people making custom PLI builds, they will have to use the same code that official PLI images use for the Vu and Gigablues that have FBC tuners.


    1. There is only internal linkage between the same tuner card/module. So " Connected to" must be restricted to the same card/module.

    2. When configuring unicable, A/B can be "connected to each other". C-H can be "connected to either A or B depending on which has the desired satellite signal.

    The letters in this example applies to a module in slot A. For a card in slot B, the tuner letters change.

    3. When using Universal LNBs, Tuner A and B cannot be "connected to" B/A. Otherwise you can physically connect Universal 19.2 to input 1. Universal 13 to input 2. And then swap the tuners around ad expect it to work.

  • Thank you for moving this thread in a more proper section. Now it is a thread on its own.

    So, I understand your explanation. As I mentioned earlier, I have no Unicable LNBs, and I'm not interesting in any connection between tuners.

    My only need is having the 2 satellite input connectors working like 2 fully independent tuners.

    I confirm that the satellite card is in the slot 1: so Tuner A = input 1 = dual feed dish, Tuner B = input 2 = motorised dish (no motor movement from the receiver).

    I repeat that the Openvix 6.7 (now 6.7.014) is the only image that works properly, so I keep it in my box now.

    Hoping that the problem will be solved in more images like Openatv or custom build of Openpli.

    Just a question: is it possible to transfer the proper files from an installed Openvix to different images? If so, how can I proceed?

    Or is the problem fixable only modifying source files and recompiling the entire image?

    Thank you so much for your great support.

    • Official Post

    The problem is only fixable by compiling the image from the source files. ATV have made some changes to their beta branch (7.6 Beta images). Hopefully there will be improvements made.


    I presume they have been testing only with unicable devices. Therefore the issues you are experiencing have not been encountered by them yet. Anyway, lets hope for an improvement.

  • I think not all users who have these tuners are experts in how to navigate the remote control buttons. I've never had any problems.


    You first need to understand the LNB systems you have on the disc and then learn the DM. There's also the VuPlus with the same FBC tuners, but many don't use them because they're incompetent and don't provide any information.

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