D+ HD 19e General principals of cardsharing the nagravision card ??

Hi,

I am doing some research. I am currently using a a vu+ reciever with either mgcamd or cccam in conjunction with clines or nlines to watch d+ Spain HD. I dont like to use the payserver ( reliability of overloaded server ) so me and my family ( 3 recvs total ) we were thinking to subscribe again to d+HD and share. I have been doing some reading of forums and things and have registered here in the hopes I could get some specific advice and plan this out a bit.

1. Using the card. I have a white and grey card with iplus / 2 boxes. These can be reactivated with a phone call. However i understand the chief problem is that the white card is married to the box so i need a boxkey ? I was confused about this as some have said with oscam you dont need a boxkey ? Assuming however I do , what is the habitual method to getting this boxkey ?

2. We have a fiber line to the house so ping times and all that are good , however as an extra form of protection I also have several servers about Europe that I can convert into a caching proxy type accesss point. Is there a reccomended proxy that can tunnell back to " home "

3. Is there a preferred method at home to read the card . I can choose between a smargo / linux , smargo / PC or smargo / rasberry Pi ( which from a geeky point of view appeals to me ) and does this preferred method take account of tunnelling security?

Im not looking for the idiots guide to all this but if you have any input or suggested reasearch areas especially surrounding point 1 I would be very interested to hear. I am confortable in ssh and with the general principles involved.

Hi Cazuela , thank you , i had typed a post by got distracted and didnt hit post , aplogies for my snaffoo. Your reply has however narrowed the trail a little bit for me , im going to try and find out if getting the RSA and boxkey is possible locally and for a reasonable price. In a way im glad its difficult but not impossible , if it was too easy it would be likely that things would change soon for sharing here in Spain.

Thanks Cazuela , I speak some spanish but am more confortable in English. Im starting to read on N3 now and yeah it seems a ballache , I understood that I would have to pay more but from what you say its just not possible. How is it the case then that its easier to buy a cline than booze in Spain? Are they using a previous system. Everybody talks about white cards and grey cards do the iplus recievers talk to each other via the coax , im 99% sure we were watching HD with the grey card ( a smaler box that had no disk in it ).

I cant check this at the moment because the sub is paused. Reactivating it is easy enough however im going to try and get a local installer to do it so the card can be activated in a cam on the vu+ , its a pain in the cojones to end up with so many remotes and boxes and besides my dish is motorized.

As much as the sub is paused / cancelled for about 2 months now i stuck both cards into the vu+ and even though the software tells me the cam slot is empty a strange thing ( to me at least ) is happening. I know the grey card should be dead but it seems its not and whats more my vu+ uno is decoding SD channels. To make sure i wasnt running any softcams I unplugged the reciever from the web / restarted / changed channell etc but it continues to decode. If i pull the grey card out , black screen... I dont know how often canal plus update entitlements etc but this card was sat in the basic reciever connected to the dish up untill about 10 days ago. Its decoding Canal +1 and c+ liga etc etc . I never bothered to investigate the grey card so certainly didnt program the rsa or boxkey for the card. Even stranger is the Vix E2 is telling me there is no card in the slot.

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Yes I intend to get a sub , however its not the white card thats working its the grey one. The white one is not recognised in the vu+ , my understanding from what I read is that i should have had to configure my vu+ with various bits and bobs such as boxkey having gone to some lenghts to get it . ccccam.info is telling me it recognises the card ( when i click on entitlements ).

Ah ok makes sense , I just reactivated the account , 100 euros a month , and i understand they are going to increase the charge again. This is more than *** which has in a lot of cases better content. In any case I can start learning more about this now with an actual card. I read about that judgement too , apparently they have ammended their contract to reflect the judgement but when people call them up asking about it the staff claim to know nothing.

Ok , not knowing if i should start a new thread i decided to ask for help here, my head is full up of different tutorials now and im not actually sure how to proceed. I would like to setup seca card sharing from 19e in a reasonable safe way. I have one problem in that I must connect to my principal shared card via mgcamd ( means I cant run cccam ) so i dont know what route to take. What I have is a vu+ with mcgamd and vix e2 installed, I dont own a Smargo at this point.

What i was thinking of doing was setting up a VPS with CSP ( have a ping of 40ms to the VPS ) and having that box connect to my seca card to share out and also using CSP to connect to my peer(s) . The ECM i get on my interesting peer is 200ms on average. Does this seem viable as a direction to take ? I protect my IP which is my chief motivation to use offsite proxy.

Technically should this card not work ? It is working in cccam even though my entitlements dont appear to have updated. ( wont work in Oscam )2de33e44441e3842b71e81.png

Have not any idea really but im soldiering on bit by bit . I have found a way to get the boxkey and RSA for the HD card but i have to travel a bit, so wont be for a week or so .. there is not hardware protection like the total card .. I have managed to get Oscam to work and entitlements are updated now on the Seca ( though its a mystery to me why the card worked with out of date entitlements ). Just a case of sorting out the tunnelr or CSP ( which took a bit to install or more specifically the java , never use a ready made image but do a fresh install from a CD with Debian Squeeze! ) .. as they say in Spain poco a poco, in between a busy work and family life.

"30 days after the last update".. which was in early November ( when i cancelled the sub though the cafatera was plugged into a dish sitting there doing nothing untill mid to late december ) . This is what i understood , however if its the expirey date plus thirty days then it would make sense ? Sorry If im confusing terminology.