I have found something at last and it is working(at the moment) I have found a site, iptv-player, that has a stream data base for RTPM, RTSP, HTTP and MMS, I took the http files and set them up as a m3u list , as been shown in other posts
#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:0,NDTV
http://bglive-a.bitgravity.com/ndtv/247hi/live/native
this is working at the moment, that have to be done individually but there are many to choose from and I think that they are regularly updated but it does feel good to know that some thing works that does not need a lot of brain work to do, I have not tried the other formats, maybe some one will try them out.