The dish is clearly not setup right.
The installer is a joke
I agree. I think I should do it myself.
I don't have a ladder so do you know what I need to do?
Posts by chris0147
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you are living in 1.238 , so the closer satellite (and close to the point zero) is 1.9 .
when you asking your receiver the 1.9 satellite, your motor/dish is on the totally center? (zero point? or half degree from it.)
I am not sure how to answer this.
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chris0147 you are paying him to setup dish to the way you want it not the he wants it.
I know, it is taking the piss as he don't know what he is doing what I want him to do. I wish I had a big ladder to climb up the wall to do it myself but it will cost me more than £100 to buy a ladder as I would be mad.
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Well that's a bummer. He should have used 0.8west and then when he got those channels you would be fine. I hope he did not charge you more as he does not know what he is doing. You can use any sat to setup usals but if you dont start at 0 and then drive the dish to the satellite you want to use and then move the whole rig, ie dish and motor. Did you show him the list of sats that are possible with 80cm dish. ??
Can you name that block of flats near you?
Yeah he should have but he said it make no different. No he did not charge me to do the job. Yeah I agree with you he did not know what he is doing.
I tried it but he didn't have time for it as he is too busy working on my dish to get it perfect setup. I have asked him to adjust it to 23 degree but he said he can't adjust it because of my area and if he adjust it I will lose all of the signals. He said he have perfect setup on the dish with correct degree for the elevations and latitude so he can't do no more.
So I am going to start on 0.8west to make adjust. I have changed the longtitude from 1.238 to 3.238. Nearly all of the channels got signals but some channels have got no signals. Do you know what I need to change for the longitude??
I have asked him about 30west and I can't get Portuguese channels due to blocked by the flats so there is nothing I can do.
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That signal is perfect for 28 east. When you get set up on 0.8west using al jazeera and gospel channel, then check the sats you are going to need most. 30west, 13east, 19 east, 28east. If these are ok then rest will be ok. Show that installer the list of sats above that are possible with an 80cm dish from your location. Dishes and lnb's and cabling and receivers can affect reception. Especially lnb but you should get enough signal to view the sats you need. You can check all your sats before he calls using the list above as provided by jon.
BUT I still worry about those flats!! Best of luck and hope you get sorted.
My sat installer came to my place today and he have adjusted it, so he got it working when he use 19.2east using with correct longitude and latitude.
I have tried to tell him that I have to use 0.8west first to balance it but he said that when he adjust it all channels should work but some channels you can't get it as it will get blocked so you have to pay.
When he left I can't get the signals for 0.8west so I have changed the longitude from 1.388 to 3.88 nearly most channels are working but some channels have no signals, e.g canal 9 HD, some c more channels have no signals. Do you know what I need to do?
My sat installer said that I need to adjust on the receiver as I need to go on positioner setup and move the position between east and west to improve the signals.
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When my sat installer come on Monday, I move the dish to 0.8w and if he adjust it that I get the signals and I move to 28e that I get good signals, what satellites should I go after 28e?
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Sure.
The signals is 99%.
The skins I use is called slyk1-hd.
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I got it. I will show it to him when I see him on Monday afternoon. Yeah I will do that to put the correct settings for the usals before he come.
I will move the dish to 0.8w to 28east, if I receive the signals what satellite I should go to after 28east?
Yes I did told you the image I use is openatv 6.4. And yes I did setup the box to myself.
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Read carefully and go slow, go to dishpointer.com, put in your post code, and if you use a zip code then you are not in UK, zip codes are in the USA!! When you put in your POST CODE look across and click on motorised, you are using a sat motor, the word motorised is next to all satellites, move your cursor on motorised and a hand appears, click it and motorised appears, click the small arrow on right and menu opens, scroll down to motorised and select motek sg 2100, this is equivalent to your motor, now click on search and then scrool down to the bit that says dish setup and that shows what the elevation on dish should be. When I did it FOR MARKS AND SPENCERS in DOVER IT CAME BACK AS 23%.
Please do that now and report back. If you are confused say so. The picture of your motor does not show the markings clearly enough but installer said 39 and that is correct.
I have put my zip code and it say my dish elevation should be 23% but i can't find where is the motor elevation?
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Here is a pic of your dish elevation. Note the arrow on dish, by my eyesight it is pointing at just fractionally beyond 20. Between 10 and 20 it looks as if there are 4 steps so each step is 2.5. I have put in an indicator where dish should be 30 or therabouts. Look at pick of motor, that arrow is elevation indocator and it looks like 39.
If he comes back he should really have fitted an L bracket and that way he can get 100% upright.
If you a channel listing loaded in your box he could have gone to each sat and checked, then you could use the list above to compare signal strength.
Are you beginning to get the picture!! The bracket I have posted looks a little like one you are uisng and its tricky to get this 100% accurate.
Look closely at dish setup this is as if you were putting a motor system up at MARKS & SPENCER in Dover and I don't know how far your are from there. The dish elevation is 23 and he has yours at 22.6 apparently but .... where are you getting 30 from??
My sat installer is coming to see me on Monday. When he come I will show him the dishpointer.com so hopefully he will have a look on my dish and motor and adjust them to get all signals to work again.
Just make sure that I do this when he come on Monday. I move the dish to 0. 8 west, I put the correct latitude and longitude in the receiver so he would see the problem with the signals?
When I get the signals for 0.8west, do I need to move the dish to 30 east and check for the signals before I move to 28.5east and so on?
In the picture is my dish elevation is 20 degree?
If so is that too low or is that correct?
And in the 2nd picture is my motor elevation is 39 degree?
I need you to tell me as i am not sure what is the correct reading for my dish elevation and motor elevation. I just want to ask you to make sure so if you see he make an error please let me know so I will tell him and let him know. But if the problem is still exist then I will ask him if I would need to get L bracket if it would help.
I got 30 degree from dishpointer.com when I put my zip code and when I selected the satellite.
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Exactly but it has taken ages to get where we are at and if the guy cocked up in the first place as the OP does not know what's what we may as well help him so when installer calls back they can show that they know a little bit.
Chris you have confused the hell out of us. Can you just answer these few questions.
1. Did you pay for motor, dish, wall bracket and was it for a motorised set up to get 30west to 39east?
2. When the installation was done did installer show how to move dish from sat to sat?
Now go to dishpointer .com put in your post code, look to the right and click on motorised now use arrow to scroll down to SG motek SG2100, now click search and then scroll down to where it says dish setup data and that's what the guy uses. I did it for CT16 1SZ = m&s in dover.
How I can confused you?
1. Yes I did pay for the motor, dish, wall mount and I am not sure what you mean by the motorised setup from 30west to 39east. If you mean if I have setup then no I haven't done it.
2. No he didn't show me how to move dish from sat to sat. I will have to do it myself.
However, I have spoke to my sat installer he said that he have setup the dish elevation as 22.6 degree and 39 degree on motor elevation. Can you please check on my pics to see that if the dish elevation is 22.6 degree and motor elevation is 39 degree?
My sat installer have also said he will let me know tomorrow when he can come down to have a look for me as I need to get book in.
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Thats perfect. You were set up on 28east as if it was a fixed dish. Call him back and can you do a pick of dish at 0.8w and with the correct usals. When you doget him out have dish on 0.8w and use those 2 channels to fine tune. While he is at the dish you could ring him and call out meter readings. Print out that list of sats above as well. It should take him all of 2 minutes.
On the dish you will see an arrow pointing to elevation and on the motor look closely near the nut on right hand side you will see a little arrow thats the pointer for the motor. It looks like the word is elevation so motor is set at 39 and on the the other side it will say latitude so that will read 51, same as your usals setting. Elevation and latitude are the same thing.
You are nearly there.
BUT do you have any obstructions ie have you a clear line of sight to the sky all the way round. ?
When he fixes dish move to 30west and then to42 east these should both be good and the rest will be fine.
You should have learnt a lot by now. The reason you would use a channel settings for a motor by hannibal is that he has gone to the trouble of scanning in all the channels on all the sats and it saves you the trouble.
Thanks, I'm going to contact him. In the pics do you know what is my dish elevation and what is my motor elevation?
I am not sure what the readings is so you will know better than I do. I need to know what the readings is so I will contact him.
And also do I need to change L bracket??
As for the print out, what do you want me to do to print out the list of sats as I don't get it?
When I get him to come down, I will tell him to adjust the motor elevation to 39 degree and adjust the dish elevation to 32 degree only if both elevation are too low. d I will get him to adjust the motor latitude to 51 only if the latitude is incorrect. I will also make sure that my latitude and longitude settings are correct in the receiver settings before I get him to come down. Please correct me if I am correct.
As for the obstructions, yes there are building close to my house which have 3 floor of flats so it could have blocked me to get the signals for 30w. If I get the dish elevation and motor elevation correct I won't get the signals for 30w or I would still get it?
I have attached a picture for you to see for better view so you might know if I will get the signals or not.
I have been learning this alot as this is the first time I have done this as i have never done this before so I will know what to do in the future.
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Chris
If you can see motor clearly do a few close up pics and same for dish we can zoom in and see settings. You motor may have been set up for east only. The pic you posted looks as if its on 28east, what figures do you get for bbc, itv, ch4. Is 30west really important?
Who was the installer?
Yes it's for 28 east when my sat meter did it for me. I will contact him today to get him to adjust it.
There are only few settings I have already taken the pics but I don't know what the latitude is on the motor. These pics are for dish elevation and motor elevation.
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try the al jazeera as well AL JAZEERA ENGLISH - 12418 V 28000
I suspect that my dish elevation is low as it is 20 degree. I'm getting no signals when I am using 1.33 longitude as I've saved in the motor setting, so when I changed it to 2.33, I can get the signals. I think my dish elevation need to adjust it.
And my motor elevation is 30 degree as I can confirm it so it should be 39 degree.
Do I need to contact sat meter to ask him to adjust it?
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try the al jazeera as well AL JAZEERA ENGLISH - 12418 V 28000
No signals.
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have you tried the gospel channel?
Yes, only got 46% of signals.
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Chris
This is what I said above " Put in the correct USALS and move dish to 0.8w and then take a pic of dish at 0.8w and post on here(tommorrow)." That means using readings from dishpointer.
You cant reach the motor so going to 0 is not required.
In fact without being able to reach the dish and motor you can do sod all and only mess with the usals.
Did the person installing the dish and motor know what they were doing?
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Okay, I have put the correct longitude and latitude on USALS.
The motor have moved the dish to 0.8w. What's next?
I have checking on the channels and some channels have no signals.
Yes I think so the person that done the dish on the wall know what he was doing.
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Ok you had an installer put up dish and motor and I expect they were qualified so they should have done it correctly and showed you the sats for east and west. The only adjustment you can make is by tweaking usals and that is a no no unless you can access dish and motor. For some reason you have sussed out how to tweak the USALS but that can do more harm than good and in another post you mention an obstruction.
Put in the correct USALS and move dish to 0.8w and then take a pic of dish at 0.8w and post on here(tommorrow).
Now on 0.8w use these frequencies for gospel channel 11357H, 24500, 7/8, DVB-S.
You can see if rig is installed correctly all the sats you can receive from an 80cm dish as per post above mine.
good luck
Do I need to put the correct latitude and longitude on USALS as it say on dishpointer.com?
If so I will do that.
And how I can set the motor to 0 on the receiver?
I need to know how to set the motor to 0 then I will move the dish to 0.8west and post the pics of the dish tomorrow.
If you don't say how then I will not be able to do anything unless you tell me how to do this.
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OK it was late last night and I missed the length of the thread. When I asked did you set it up yourself I meant did you put bracket on wall, assembled motor, adjusted motor, assembled dish and set dish elevation. When using USALS you put in the co-ordinates of your house and depending on your location select the best sat to fine tune the dish. In your case its 0.8w. There are 2 channels I use the god channel and Al jazeera. One is vertical one is horizontal. I dont know how good your sat meter is but I use the receiver in my case a Vu+ Duo2. I have a gtmedia v8 finder as well but not used very often. The sat meter is not a lot of good if your rig is not 100% level. When you have the motor, dish, attached to wall mount and motor at 0 when you look from behind it should look dead straight like a gun barrel and the dish face dead square. If its not you will have trouble, Then pole has to be 100% perpendicular. If you meet these requirements you are all set. On the receiver in which you have already loaded a motorised sat listing. You do this via plugins and go to settings and select Vhannibal motorE2. Now you select Al jazeera and motor moves a fraction. You then move the whole rig until you get a picture. If you have dish facing due south to start the movement will be minimal. Once you get a picture you then adjust motor elevation, and sometimes the dish elevation but not often. You will see signal level go up and down so you settle on best. You have to fine tune lnb as well ie make dure skew is correct ie dead straight on arm for 0.8w. Then you choose gospel channel and check signal. I use % for signal so I get 68 on gospel and 77 on al jezzera, but I am a long way from you and use a 110cm dish with a black ultra lnb and DARK SUPREME motor and its set up 99.9% correct, high winds recently moved rig but I can use usals to adjust.
So in your case note the following and I am only helping you so dont get mad. The wall bracket is no good and you have already been told that but the reason is I dont think its possible to get rig 100%. That bracket is OK for sky. I have 3 dishes and one is like your bracket but its for sky. I also have another dish for sky but I used t&k brackets and the ease of setting up is chalk and cheese.
1. Here is the correct bracket.9bd31bda4ed.jpg
2. I used marks & spencer i dover and these are the settings that should be in usals
3. Your lnb is cheap as chips but ok for fixed I use an inverto quad but here's single., see pic, its very good for the fringes ie your dish and 30west.
4. Motor is good.
5. I dont know your sat cable but I use the second best , well its good.
So in your case make the best of what you have.
Do this move dish to 0.8west. Then proceed as below. NB do you know how to send dish to 0? If you do do that. Then
Put in correct usals and dont change it. Make dish elevation 31.5, make motor 51 or 39 your motor bracket may have elevation on one side and latitude on the other. Then select 0.8w and move whole rig etc. Get best signal, tighten up and then try all sats from 39east to 30west. All the footie you need is on 13east but we must be greedy quite a bit on 30west as well.
So at the moment you are using the wrong settings and its quite likely the rig is a bit off but you did get a few sats. Do as above and see what happens.
I am scanning in a few sats using openatv6.4 and on 30west there is an AJE channel that Fta its Al JEEZEERA its 10890V, 27500 DVB-S, 3/4.
By the way by changing the usals settings you are tweaking the motor but it will throw all the other sats out. You can tweak but only by about 1% max and then you have to change back for east and west.
NB If you study this u tube video, its old but good, you will be good to go and especially the bit with the three red dots. The sats you are after are about 22,000 miles altitude so 0ne degree out on earth means you miss the sat by about 65 miles!! Hence accurracy. If you can set it up correctly you should get all you eed between 30west and 42east.
No I did not setup the dish on the wall as I had someone that done it for me. When I am using USALS, do I have to put the correct latitude and longitude that I got it from dishpointer.com??
I can't see what is the different of using L bracket and the bracket like what I got??
What is the frequency of god channel??
How I can set the motor to 0 on the receiver before I move the dish to 0.8e??
I don't have Vhannibal motorE2 so why do I need it?
I can't adjust the dish elevation as it is too high on the wall and I don't have a big ladder to climb up on the wall. Do I need to ask the sat meter to do this for me??
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You need to say more and then its easier to help, all I know from reading back is that dish is 80cm and reciver is octagon sf8008. What is the make of the motor, and what image are you using, and what is the make of the lnb? Did you set up dish and motor yourself? Are you using USALS ie you put in your co-ordinates. Did you use 0.8west to start?
You only adjust the dish and motor once and then it tracks the arc. You say south east but if you give a town I can check better. I checked dover and dish should be at 31. Motor is correct at either 51 or 39. Can you get 0.8west and on the god channel what is the reading?
Okay. The make and model for the motor is technomate tm-2600m3. I am using openatv 6.4 image. The make of lnb is GT-Sat GT-SLRC1 Universal Single.
No I did not setup the dish myself, I got the sat meter that done the work for me. Yes I am using USALS and yes I can move the motor from 1east to 30west, but the only problems I have is some channels don't show up in 16e and all don't show up in 30west when I did a manual scan. I'm from Dover Kent. Yes I can get 0.8west with no problem. I haven't check God channel so I will check tomorrow. The signals strength for 0.8west is something like 9. 2db.
I have setup the longitude as 4.388 so is that correct or I need to change it back to 1.33?
And is the dish elevation correct or do I need to get the sat meter to adjust it?
