Posts by viper82

    If you will have better results or signal with dish 80 cm , do it the same thing with new dish , but we will see tomorow.

    I know that you will solved your "problem" with new dish. :goodluck:

    I think so too, this 100 dish just bought I don't know why but it has always given problems, mounted on the pole aimed at 13E the maximum signal I could find was 60% maximum 70% with an 80cm dish always mounted on the same pole, same lnb , same cable, the signal is 91%.

    With a larger dish, shouldn't it increase and give a better signal? :thinking face:

    ... then you could look at your LNB, some makes are better than others.

    To change your signal levels to DB -

    menu-setup-usage and user interface-settings-show SNR as % instead of DB (not all stb support this function)

    ok, what is the use of doing this?

    set from % to db

    ok.

    Eutelsat 13 E

    10971 H 29700 --- SNR: 83/86 AGC: 99 BER: 0

    11432 V 29900 --- SNR: 83 AGC: 99 BER: 0

    11766 V 29900 --- SNR: 78/80 AGC: 99 BER: 0


    Eutelsat 16 E

    11139 V 27500 --- SNR: 55/57 AGC: 95 BER: 0

    11262 H 30000 --- SNR: 554/55 AGC: 96 BER: 0

    11554 V 30000 --- SNR: 70/72 AGC: 99 BER: 0

    11637 V 30000 --- SNR: 80 AGC: 99 BER: 0


    Astra 19 E

    11229 V 22000 --- SNR: 67 AGC: 99 BER: 0

    11361 H 22000 --- I don't have this frequency

    11362 H 22000 --- SNR: 75 AGC: 99 BER: 0

    11538 V 22000 --- SNR: 75 AGC: 99 BER: 0

    I've already tried many times (I've been trying for several months) with a setting of 16e set as the starting satellite, but only when I set 0.8w as the starting satellite that I found a significant difference in signal, tomorrow I'll take a 80cm dish because when I mounted the 80cm one I didn't have all these problems I'm having with this 100cm one.


    p.s. there is nothing to apologize because what you offered me was advice so there is absolutely nothing to apologize :winking face: :clinking beer mugs:

    as I take the 80cm one tomorrow I will set it up again with the 16e satellite as primary let's see what happens.


    all advice is always welcome

    Tell me which frequencies you are interested in knowing about 19,16,13 that I post them

    Is the anything blocking your line of sight to some satellites ? a tree or a house ?

    yes, houses, the parabola is higher than the houses (you can raise it again if you want) currently from the roof the dish is at a height of 6 meters fixed to a wall approximately 4 meters above.

    I am glad things have improved

    me too a lot :smirking face:


    but if there trees or buildings in the way then they will need to be removed :winking face with tongue:

    :face with tears of joy: :face with tears of joy: :face with tears of joy: :bomb:

    Also change your SNR to DB values, they mean far more to me

    I did not understand

    For comparison this is my signal


    30west

    cubavision 10770 h 30000 --- SNR: 63 AGC: 95 BER: 0

    Telesur HD 10939 h 15000 --- SNR: 58 AGC: 82 BER: 0


    27w

    BBC one HD 11495 V 44100 --- SNR: 0 AGC: 0 BER: 0


    22w

    Canal Algerie 12674 H 20740 ---SNR: 43 AGC: 79 BER: 0


    15w

    ESPN 901 12609 H 7552 --- SNR: 50 AGC: 78 BER: 0


    7w

    Qatar TV HD 10834 V 27500 --- SNR: 0 AGC: 0 BER: 0

    Saudi Channel 1 12149 V 27500 --- SNR: 40 AGC: 84 BER: 140/200


    36e

    1 ARKHI 11212 H 14400 --- SNR: 0/30 AGC: 78 BER: 0/1900 0/630 (Unstable)


    39e

    ERT 1 HD 122224 H 13381 --- SNR: 44/46/47 AGC: 83 BER: 0

    BBC WORLD 12241 H 13381 ---SNR 8.9db SNR: 35/37 AGC: 81/82 BER: 0 (Unstable)

    4E 10730 H 30000 ---- SNR: 81 AGC: 98 BER: 0

    Prima sport 1 HD 12290 V 30000 --- SNR: 64/66 AGC: 98 BER: 0


    52e

    247Box 11221 V 27500 --- SNR: 33/35/37 AGC: 83/84 BER: 95/150/ (Unstable)


    68.5e

    POWER TV 12562 H 30000 --- SNR: 0 AGC: 0 BER: 0

    34.5 WEST

    11469 H 14975 ---- I could not test because I have no channel list


    I know I can fix the signal even better, but how?


    for example: on 7E the feeds I can only get (nhl service 1 and nhl service 2)

    while the frequencies:


    Eutelsat 7A/B ( 7.0°E )

    11153 H 7200

    11171 V 7199

    11149 V 14399

    12527 V 4998

    11189 V 7198

    11171 V 7198

    11189 V 7200

    12628 H 7199


    I don't get them, even if I use blindScan it doesn't find them




    Hello everyone, Panda555 is right, normally you have to see the basic setting with your longitude, for example at home for me it was around 6.80 est....so if it corresponds to an existing sat you take it, otherwise you choose closest .... for my part I took the sat turk at 7° east, it was the closest to my exact south ....

    why is 16e not the closest satellite to me?

    my longitude is 17.


    As I wrote in the previous post or left out my longitude and closest satellite and I did as I was advised by (jenseneverest) starting from 0.8w perfecting the satellite from there so currently I have found a significant improvement on the satellites

    I doubt it, you are still 20cm smaller than maximum dish size. which is probably another 10kg's in weight.

    But if you started on 16e as your Zero point, then dish will be way over to the west when trying to get signal at 30w.

    For me the motor should be on 0 when starting close to real due south, which is roughly the 0.8w satellite i suggested you begin with.

    (introduction) I started following those who told me to start from the satellite closest to my longitude (16E) (to leave nothing to chance) since I had already started that way, trying to perfect the signal, I then went to 30W no signal, going to 42.0E no signal.

    After having done many tests of signal arrangement at the extremes returning to 16e then 13e/ 7e 5w so on saying the signal was not good enough, so I started to follow your advice go to 0.8w which had a signal from 60 to 70% I started them to perfect the signal.


    As it was before: 0.8w with frequency (12034.0 MHz V 30000 3/4 8ps 0.8°w) the signal is: snr 67 agc 98 ber 0

    8w.jpg



    Now frequency: (12034.0 MHz V 30000 3/4 8ps 0.8°w) the signal is: snr 80agc 99 ber 0 (noticeable increase in signal)

    8w-02.jpg


    0.8w

    Before:                                                                                                    Now:

    frequency (11938.0......) snr 80 agc 94 ber 0----------------------------> frequency (11938.0......) snr 95/97 agc 99 ber 0

    frequency (10778.0......) snr 0 agc 0 ber 0-------------------------------> frequency (10778.0......) snr 0 agc 0 ber 0

    frequency (11996.0......) snr 77 agc 98 ber 0----------------------------> frequency (11996.0......) snr 89 agc 99 ber 0

    frequency (12188.0......) snr 70 agc 98 ber 0----------------------------> frequency (12188.0......) snr 89 agc 99 ber 0

    frequency (11843.0......) snr 70 agc 97 ber 0----------------------------> frequency (11843.0......) snr 80 agc 99 ber 0

    frequency (12188.0......) snr 70/72 agc 98 ber 0------------------------> frequency (12188.0......) snr 87 agc 99 ber 0

    frequency (11325.0......) snr 0 agc 0 ber 0--------------------------------> frequency (11325.0......) snr 0 agc 0 ber 0

    frequency (10934.0......) snr 0 agc 0 ber 0-------------------------------> frequency (10934.0......) snr 0 agc 0 ber 0

    frequency (10903.0......) snr 0 agc 0 ber 0--------------------------------> frequency (10903.0......) snr 0 agc 0 ber 0

    frequency (11229.0......) the signal is: snr 0 agc 0 ber 0-------------> frequency (11229.0......) the signal is: snr 0 agc 0 ber 0

    frequency (12418.0......) snr 58/63 agc 98 ber 0------------------------> frequency (12418.0......) snr 80 agc 99 ber 0 (noticeable increase in signal)

    frequency (12207.0......) snr 70/72 agc 99 ber 0------------------------> frequency (12207.0......) snr 89/91 agc 99 ber 0

    frequency (12054.0......) snr 72 agc 98 ber 0-----------------------------> frequency (12054.0......) snr 86 agc 99 ber 0

    frequency (11977.0......) snr 66/67 agc 95 ber 0------------------------> frequency (11977.0......) snr 81 agc 99 ber 0

    ...


    30w

    Before:                                                                                                    Now:

    frequency (12360.0......) snr 0 agc 0 ber 0-------------------------------> frequency (12360.0......) snr 54/55 agc 89 ber 0

    frequency (10770.0......) snr 0 agc 0 ber 0-------------------------------> frequency (10770.0......) snr 0 agc 0 ber 0 (Cubavision Internacional)

    frequency (12476.0......) snr 0 agc 0 ber 0-------------------------------> frequency (12476.0......) snr 0/49 0/52 0/47 agc 90 ber 0 (Amc break)

    ...


    the 30w satellite is not stable.

    Doing as you said I have a significant improvement in the satellites. How can I improve everything to have a signal on all satellites?

    Ok thanks tomorrow morning I do that Currently if I push the dish up I have 70% signal on 30w and other satellites w. So if I push the dish up what should I do?

    As it is set now, going to 0.8w with frequency (12034.0 MHz V 30000 3/4 8psk 0.8°w) the signal is: snr 67 agc 98 ber 0

    8w.jpg


    frequency (11938.0 MHz h 28000 7/8 qpsk 0.8°w) the signal is: snr 80 agc 94 ber 0

    frequency (10778.0......) the signal is: snr 0 agc 0 ber 0

    frequency (11996.0......) the signal is: snr 77 agc 98 ber 0

    frequency (12188.0......) the signal is: snr 70 agc 98 ber 0

    frequency (11843.0......) the signal is: snr 70 agc 97 ber 0

    frequency (12188.0......) the signal is: snr 70/72 agc 98 ber 0

    frequency (11325.0......) the signal is: snr 0 agc 0 ber 0

    frequency (10934.0......) the signal is: snr 0 agc 0 ber 0

    frequency (10903.0......) the signal is: snr 0 agc 0 ber 0

    frequency (11229.0......) the signal is: snr 0 agc 0 ber 0

    frequency (12418.0......) the signal is: snr 58/63 agc 98 ber 0

    frequency (12207.0......) the signal is: snr 70/72 agc 99 ber 0

    frequency (12054.0......) the signal is: snr 72 agc 98 ber 0

    frequency (11977.0......) the signal is: snr 66/67 agc 95 ber 0

    ...



    What frequency do you recommend to use for the start?

    I doubt it, you are still 20cm smaller than maximum dish size. which is probably another 10kg's in weight.

    But if you started on 16e as your Zero point, then dish will be way over to the west when trying to get signal at 30w.

    For me the motor should be on 0 when starting close to real due south, which is roughly the 0.8w satellite i suggested you begin with.

    so i have to start with 0.8w?

    should the motor be at 0 or 0.8w?

    example 1: motor at 0 and point the parable at 0.8w?

    example 2: motor at 0.8w and point the parabola at 0.8w?

    screenshot-20230318182933.jpg


    could it depend on the weight of the dish?

    Installation:

    1.jpg2.jpg3.jpg4.jpg5.jpg


    Signals

    DAS ERSTE HD 19.2E : signal fluctuates from SNR 87/89%

    RTSH 16E: signal fluctuates from SNR 60/63%

    RSI LA1 HD 13E : signal fluctuates from SNR 81/83%

    RTL HD 9E : signal fluctuates from SNR 78/80%

    4U TV HD 7E : signal fluctuates from SNR 78/80%

    AUST. COMEDY AND DRAMA 15.0W : signal fluctuates from SNR 33/35%

    CUBAVISION INTER 30.0W : signal SNR 0%

    I noticed that taking the dish by making a little pressure from left to right the signal is also present at 30W with power 60/70, (by doing this little pressure the motor arm moves) leaving the dish at 30w it does not give a signal.

    Could it depend on the weight of the dish that unbalances the motor? (the dish weighs 20kg)

    Regardless of what satellite you begin with there is very little point to using strong signal for setting up a motorised dish that spans a full arc.

    For example in SE UK I can get 16east on my 60cm mesh dish. It is useless to set up on 16e unless you only want one satellite.

    I was told that to set up the motorized dish you have to start with the satellite closest to my longitude, my longitude is 17° and therefore my reference satellite will be 16E.

    this I was told :man shrugging:

    I don't have motorized dish , but I will try to help you. You must adjusted your motorized dish according to the latitude and longitude

    of your city or town. According to the longitude of your city , true south is required to adjust the dish. The tilt of the hand ( arm ) of your

    satellite motor is the latitude of your city or town. What is your exactly longitude and latitude ? Maybe will help this site.


    https://en.dishpointer.eu/

    I've never used that site, I use this site https://www.dishpointer.com/

    Poor alignment

    But you need to be using the same LNB and STB to do a comparison

    I am also assuming the dish's are in exactly the same place.


    Have you got the new dish up now ?

    All identical, the only thing different is the satellite dish, same pole perfectly level, same motor, same lnb, with the 100 one the signal on 16 and poor with the 80 one the signal is much better,


    there should be no difference right?