Fine tune on a weak transponder at 16 east, is your satellites.xml covering the arc?
In what sense?
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Yes the black ultra should give a marked improvement and you know you are using the best. Have you tried sats at 42 east as they are powerful. And cable with no joins is a must.
You have done well and you have all the kit so getting someone in may be a waste. Good sat cable matters as well, what is the cable? And the big influence is the receiver with a sensitive tuner. The octagon is cheap and I don't have one to test.
You can tweak the dish from your armchair using the remote. Watching Italy V england now.
I know you have a good signal meter so you dont need guesswork, you just peak the signal on a horizontal and vertical channel on 16 east and tune the lnb, skew and focal length but I think you have done all that.
42e I receive it with 89% signal but as I change channel from 42 and going back to satellites the motor does not align the satellites well, I don't know why this happens, it may depend on the fixed dish Maybe down at the motor arm, When you raise your arm, does it struggle because of this, then it doesn't align well with the satellites?
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I used invacom l.n.b with Technomate 2600 motor 1.1 traix satellite dish The traix satellite dish is completely different I found good s.n.r
with invacom With motorised satellite installation there is a correction error of +or-1 You could try
to losen the motor bolts and adjust about 1mm
Up or dowm to see if your s.n.r increases across
All transponders Use a permanent mark to mark
Where the elevation lines up on the motor Incase the satellite dish moves due to weather conditions in the future
In what sense " +or-1 "
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19.2E
11405.0 V 2200 auto Qpsk
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It seems strange that you can only get to 30E. I get much more. I would have thought someone in Italy would get much more than me?
it certainly depends on me
or LNB that I currently have ,first I want to try with that lnb that was proposed to me, if it doesn't solve anything then next month I'm looking for an installer even if here in the area there is no one specialized in motorized dishes, but at least he with an instrument -
60-80% is what I have. If it works, then it works, numbers do not matter. Someone mentioned earlier that anything above 60 is good.
You can only go to 30E because of obstruction?
in what sense due to obstruction? Are you referring to obstacles? (houses, trees, other) ?
there are no oscules for viewing.
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I repositioned the dish, currently I have a signal from 30 east to 30 west, total signal around 60/80%. is this normal? or the signal must exceed 80 for all satellites?.
by inserting this lnb will I notice a significant improvement in the satellites or will the improvement be little?
Inverto Black Ultra Twin HGLN 40mm LNB (diametro feed 40 mm) per ricevitori satellitari analogici e digitali, colore: NeroPeso:181 g, Tipo prodotto:LNB doppio satellitewww.amazon.it -
Don't change from your 100cm to the 80cm. Your 100cm is aluminium and with sat signals bigger is always better. I get a far better signal on my VU +DUO2 than on a zgemma h7s so receiver is important as well.
Ok thank you
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Chiedo scusa, un piccolo riassunto, ci sono novità sul cielo italiano?
vedo che ultimamente si sta parlando tanto
I'm sorry, a little summary, is there any news on the Italian sky?
I see there's been a lot of talk lately
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correct link for blanking off used ports.
Thank you so much
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Ok I checked those signal readings and those are very good from where you are with an 80CM dish. So you have set up correctly. When you check a signal always look at polarisation i.e is it H or V.
With openatv 6.4 I get similar readings but small reduction about 7-9%.
You did not say make of dish but if you are keen to do better then a 1metre gilbertini is the best option, its aluminium so light but easy to dent.
I'm currently using a 100 dish (emme esse), I haven't mounted the 80 dish yet
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The twin version of those inverto lnb's is slightly better for weak signals, than the single, at least it is for me when testing on my 120 dish.
The reported SNR levels on e2 STB's are not accurate and vary drastically from one STB to another.
Don't expect to get the same SNR levels as other users, only if you used the same STB / firmware and were in the same location would that be of any real help.
so I recommend to take LNB two users, even if it will be only one user?
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https://www.amazon.it/Inverto-…b%2Caps%2C42&sr=8-1-fkmr1
thats the single.
Stay away from Vix and use openatv with the metric HD skin. I scanned 16e just now and got 723 channels and I use Al Jazerra hd balkans as its free to air.
I installed vix 6.3, (I also downloaded version 6.2 from the site. zip inserted in the usb did not see version 6.2) I did not download plugins and nothing, I scanned the channels and found 739 channels.
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Rig = is the pole , motor, dish.
When you say engine I know you mean motor and that is a good motor.
14. 40 and a half apples is more than 40 Apples, = extra half apple = more than ie greater.
4. that LNB would be classed by me as crap ie useless, if I went to a house and that was the lnb I would bin it but test it first might be ok for a static dish.
5 I use a quad ultra as more than one box, here is a twin, important to get the correct version. There is another make of lnb that people rave about I'll try and find it and post later.
https://www.amazon.it/Inverto-…&pd_rd_i=B001ON8DAG&psc=1
11. Dont install openvix 6.3 its too new. I think your box is multiboot so stick with openatv 6.4 and then will be same as me.
NB there is an old video on u tube that has a great illustration on how to explain rig dead straight, it uses 3 dots. Pole may be straight but dish and motor can be uneven. I'll post video link in a while.
16e I'll check in a little while and give u three readings one for Vix 6.2 and other for open 7.2 and then 6.4
this is the video, 16 years ago!! the bit you need to pay attention to is at 5.16 mins ie the tree RED DOTS thats the secret.
4. ok , what you told me has two participants, if you tell me a very good lnb with one participant.
5. now I study it well
11. yes my box is multiboot, i will install vix 2.0
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This is a very long thread but what you are trying to achieve can be made very complex, here is a basic summary.
1, the rig must be 100% vertical.
2. The dish and motor has to be facing dead straight, like a gun, when you stand behind it and look down.
3. Your location ie lat/long known as USALS has to be correct.
4. You need a good LNB like black ultra.
5. Good sat cable.
6. receiver with a sensitive tuner.
7. The lnb will be dead straight when motor at 0 the motor performs the skew.
8. When on the first sat you have to tune the lnb by moving it in and out, this called getting the correct focal length.
9. On first sat you fine tune the rig ie move motor elevation up and down for best signal, you have to do this on a vertical channel and a horizontal channel. And you sometimes adjust dish elevation.
10. Once you have best possible signal you tighten everything up slowly while ensuring signal is good.
11. different images will give a different signal reading openatv is lower than open vix, anything above 60 on ooenatv is good.
1, What do you mean by: " the rig " the pole? if you mean the pole is plumb on all 4 sides checked with different spirit levels
2. Ok, I will check.
3. Correct position obtained from google, inserted in the decoder.
4. can you send me link of amazon ultra black LNB so i can place order?. (right now i'm using this LNB) let me know if it is okay.
5. the satellite cable I'm using is this: 15 meters long.
6. what do you mean by receiver? the decoder? if yes i'm using this (OCTAGON SF8008 Limited Gold Edition - 4K UHD E2 DVB-S2X & DVB-C/T2 (Dual OS) Combo)
7. OK thank you
8. once I put the engine at 0, lnb perfectly straight, told the engine to go to 16e, I don't have to rotate the lnb but focus it and that's it?
9. Ok thank you
10. ok
11. if you recommend that I install open vix, I'll install it right away. ( now i'm using openatv 6.4 i'm not using 7.2 ).
Display More12. Now try next sat and all will be good, if not then it can be because, dish is too small, lnb is no good, rig is misalinged ie crooked. and so on. You can tweak by adjusting uses in box.
13. enigma2 is the linux softwrae used in your receiver. Openatv 7.2 is very new but should be ok.
14. 40.5 is greater than 40 so use 41.
15. Can you say make of dish and lnb. any pics of how it is mounter??
16. NB above all you must have a clear view of the sky.
17. Tell me some channels on 16e and i'll check them. i jave 1.1m triax dish, with darkmotor, black ultra lnb and vu duo2 box and openvix but i have other boxes connected with openatv 6.4 and 7.2 so can check my readings. i am near at atlantic ocean 8west.
18. just saw you have a signal meter but if rig is crooked makes no difference or if obstructions in way but is a great help if working on your own.
12. ok
13 ok, 41 ( engine elevation 49 )
14. I did not understand the question
15. clear view of the sky.
16.ok, i'll tell you the channels i'm using for the signal: (channels checked right now 16E)
10762 RTK 1 SAT (KOSOVO)=========>SNR:72 AGC:96 BER:0
11262 TV DUGA PLUS==============>SNR:52 AGC:96 BER:0
11512 TVR INTERNATIONAL=========>SNR:72 AGC:96 BER:0
12643 DIGI 24====================>SNR:64 AGC:96 BER:0
10803 RTSH SHQIP================>SNR:66 AGC:96 BER:0
11094 SPEKTRUM TV CZECHIA=======>SNR:47 AGC:91 BER:0
11094 WAU HD===================>SNR:46 AGC:91 BER:0
10972 ASTRA TV==================>SNR:57 AGC:92 BER:0
11553 RTS 1 HD SERBIA============>SNR:72 AGC:99 BER:0
12517 PRO TV INTERNATIONAL======>SNR:49 AGC:85 BER:0
12639 RTSH 1 HD=================>SNR:70 AGC:82 BER:0
12717 NATIONAL TV===============>SNR:60 AGC:74 BER:0
11177 ZADRUGA LIVE 1============>SNR:55 AGC:91 BER:0
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As already written in previous posts I don't know which of the two to use, since my latitude is 40.5
If you set these precisely then all should work.
the post is bubble checked with different bubble levels on the 4 sides all levels say it is bubble.
If not then there is a problem software settings.
How do I know if the software settings are correct?
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49.5 elevation. Now you say this your image looks good. Leave it there and never change.
ok, but i have very little low signal on 16e and other satellites. Raising or lowering the dish the signal worsens
10803 RTSH SHQIP=============>SNR:52 63<==maximum signal that is reached AGC:96 BER:0
11094 SPEKTRUM TV CZECHIA====>SNR:33 46<==maximum signal that is reached AGC:91 BER:0
11094 WAU HD================>SNR:33 46<==maximum signal that is reached AGC:91 BER:0
10972 ASTRA TV===============>SNR:46 55<==maximum signal that is reached AGC:92 BER:0
11553 RTS 1 HD SERBIA=========>SNR:58 72 <==maximum signal that is reached AGC:99 BER:0
12517 PRO TV INTERNATIONAL===>SNR:24 49<==maximum signal that is reached AGC:84 BER:0
12639 RTSH 1 HD==============>SNR:55 64<==maximum signal that is reached AGC:80 BER:0
12717 NATIONAL TV============>SNR:47 58<==maximum signal that is reached AGC:74 BER:0
11177 ZADRUGA LIVE 1==========>SNR:44 52<==maximum signal that is reached AGC:90 BER:0
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Before you try to line up the sat are you telling the motor to move to 16E?
Is your software settings correct? I am not E2 so I cant help with that part.
yes, before aligning the signal, I press on a channel of 16e the motor moves to 16E and I find the signal there.
what do you mean the settings of the software? what do you mean by e2?
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But his manual says
1) You site latitudine 40 elevation angle 50 declination angle 6.3 disk bracket angle 23.7
2) You site latitudine 41 elevation angle 49 declination angle 6.4 disk bracket angle 23.6
But something I wonder... Isn't dish angle calculated by elevation angle - declination angle? Not sure where 23.x comes from?
I did not understand the question
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The declination angle is a technical parameter and cannot be adjusted as such. Only the bracked angle of your longitude on the motor and the elevation angle of the dish are needed. Only with these two parameters you can improve the signal. I hope you are doing well. For the LNB, it is recommended to be as far from the center of the dish as possible (forward/backward movement) on bracket if it has any effect, but it is usually placed somewhere "in the middle".
ok Thank you,
photos taken a few minutes ago.
Did I place it correctly?
Here is something wrong. I see that is motor elevation more than 40. Your latitude is 40.17 and on motor must be also40.
Also , your dish elevation is too high . In your post #97 if is calculated elevation 43 must be 43 and not 49.5. How I mentioned
before the motor and the dish , both must have same direction or be in the same line on 16 E satellite. You must move
both , motor and dish together. Probably is also problem because you can't access motor from behind.
My latitude is not 40.17 but 40.5 ( Latitude 40.5 longitude 17)
On the engine manual as previously written it says that for latitude 40 set elevation to 50 for latitude 41 set elevation to 49.
I set 49.5 because my latitude is 40.5
Tomorrow before mounting an 80 dish I will try to bring the engine elevation to 40.5 let's see what happens.
