info correct installation and configuration of the motorized dish

You must be having fun. You will need to look carefully at the face of each dish, i.e the front and try to spot indentations or warping, and you would need to stand each dish side by side and look along each one to spot any discrepancies. The signal from each sat will hit the dish in different locations so at 30w something is amiss with the 100cm.

In now depends how humg up you are on fixing the 100cm, I think the 80 is galvanised steel so harder to dent, the 100cm is aluminium is very easy to dent.

The best time to align a dish is on a cloudy day as signal will be weaker so rig has to be spot on but I think weather is quite good where you are?

Do you know how to access USALS from you armchair and tweak it while on say 30w with 100cm?

You can also place dish face down on a flat surface and see if the whole of the dish makes contact with the surface, no gaps a big pane of glass would best!!

What was the problem?

viper82 , as asked what was the problem please share information because some other members may one day have same problem and that

is for me whole point of a forum to just say problem solved personaly is does not help considering the good members on here that did try to help.

Hello folks. Nice to get in touch with u all first. :-)

Does anybody have issue with dcss (broadcaster provided) LNB and use USALS functionallity?

I have an OS 4k+ and no chance to get my motor dish working. If I connect VU+DUO2 it works correctly. Standard 100cm aluminum dish.

I'm not opening another thread because if we fix the issue we can put as open post, Universal and Unicable LNB setup,

thank in advance to everybody.

Chhers

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Hello folks. Nice to get in touch with u all first. :-)

Does anybody have issue with dcss (broadcaster provided) LNB and use USALS functionallity?

I have an OS 4k+ and no chance to get my motor dish working. If I connect VU+DUO2 it works correctly. Standard 100cm aluminum dish.

I'm not opening another thread because if we fix the issue we can put as open post, Universal and Unicable LNB setup,

thank in advance to everybody.

Chhers

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See that on a few STB's (not just os 4k) i have had to use a Low Power LNB to solve the issue before.

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Thanks a lot jensen, much apreciate your reply. Can you share some model of low power dcss LNB. please?

thanks

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Hello folks. Nice to get in touch with u all first. :-)

Does anybody have issue with dcss (broadcaster provided) LNB and use USALS functionallity?

I have an OS 4k+ and no chance to get my motor dish working. If I connect VU+DUO2 it works correctly. Standard 100cm aluminum dish.

I'm not opening another thread because if we fix the issue we can put as open post, Universal and Unicable LNB setup,

thank in advance to everybody.

Chhers

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See that on a few STB's (not just os 4k) i have had to use a Low Power LNB to solve the issue before.

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Thanks a lot jensen, much apreciate your reply. Can you share some model of low power dcss LNB. please?

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these are some of the LNB's that i have used (but i have tested several others too, basically use a good name branded LNB that has "Low Power" )

https://www.technomate.com/products/TM%252d1-Gold.html

https://inverto.tv/lnb/362/sin…al-40mm-pll-lnb?locale=en

The Inverto with 4g filter above is currently my preferred LNB for use on weak signals.

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I love the Inverto brand and use only those one. Simply Fantastic. Running now for 15years+ did not lost 0.1db. Great.

But as I wrote, my problem is with a dCss LNB and not the Universal one. can u share some one? I'll look to Inverto website for some dCss Low power one.

Simply with dCss LNB (provider bundled...) I can not drive USALS my satellite dish.

jenseneverest

what provider is this from ?

sly italia (bundled with set top box which can use only dcss)

Is this a unicable LNB ?

Yes, it's a dCSS UX157B LNBF (Shengyang Science@Technology)

Has the LNB got a legacy port like some do ??

No, 1 output dcss only

with a legacy output no problem at all using USALS.

Unfortunately I must use the dcss signal to keep both in parallel (via splitter) working. I tried everything including connecting directly to receiver with the shortest cable possible to reduce mA loss, but no luck.

And indeed it is a driver issue, next step will be taking note of some model dispayed in the enigma2 LNB configuration page and buy it. Maybe drivers are specific for that model and it works, maybe. Need to try.

If I ll fix it I will share with the community. It may help somebody else.

If someone or you has some other hints I'm here to read it.

Thansk again jenseneverest and all.

abu baniaz

yes as I said, If I set to a fixed position, it works fine across the four channels.

Setting up the tuner as Advanced then Unicable/SCR, etc the USALS does not work, dish does not move.

If I plug the DUO2 with same tuner config, same image, same channel list, etc...dish move regularly.

Thanks

ok but why Duo2 handle it correctly then? (work in USALS with dCSS).

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Yes that is where i always start 0.8w

Reset you motor before setting up again, as if starting from new again.

Motor should then be driven to 0.8w (some motors have digital displays on the actual motor - i am not sure about your one? )

Fine tune for best signal on 0.8w on both H and V transponders try channel U tv (12687 H 27500) and channel Al Jazeera English (12418 V 28000) both are free channels.

Then drive motor to 30west and check for signal ,then to 39 east, and check for signal.

If there is no signal at 30w or 39e then bend dish face up or down to try for signal, that will tell you which way to adjust the motor latitude.

Go back to 0.8 west and check for signal. If signal is reduced, fine tune parabolic (dish face) elevation.

Repeat this process several times, between all 3 satellites' until you have good signal on all 3.

When you do, then you should have good signal everywhere, the full satellite arc.

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I know I'm a bit late to the party but this is the best advice ever!

I've been messing about for years (yes, years!) trying to get the arc right on my own dish. I've got a history the same as jenseneverest, but when it came to tweeking my set-up after the wind blew it off course years ago, I was stumped!

Reset the motor!!!!!

Thank you, it was plain sailing from then on in.

I've now got a 30°w to 42°e and all is good 😀

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28.2-Lyn..jpgМ-28.25е.jpgkard.gifм-т.н.jpgПан-3-3562-58пр.jpgм-3.jpg11111.jpgIMG_3127.jpg002.jpgЭф-мотор-1.jpgLond.-0.8w.jpgПар.3е.jpg1.jpegGood evening. I read an interesting topic about setting up a motor suspension. The experts in their field answered correctly how to set up an antenna on a =motor=. I will print how I set up my =motor= with different antennas. It all started in 1998. My first antennas were stationary, I learned to set them up myself. A year later I set up my first 1.1m antenna. Gold Master. It still works great. I experimented with it and the C range. But it is better to receive the C range on stationary antennas. For the experiment, I also installed the Kharkov 1.2m - /Copy of Mabo/. But it was too heavy for the =motor=. I cut several holes along the perimeter from the edge. The weight decreased significantly - /photo below/. Then I tried a lightweight 1.4m Hungarian aluminum antenna. I didn't like it, in terms of signal strength it worked like a 1.2m. Now it costs 1.1m Gold Master. Before installing =motor= on a perfectly flat pipe or bracket, set the motor to position -0-. Connect to the tuning receiver and set the execution command to -0-. The receiver should have the coordinates of your place of residence-/installation/ set. And also all the frequencies for the satellites you need, from East to West. And it is better to turn the motor-/from -0- to the West and back to the East/ at the beginning of the house, I like the control mode-USALS- better.

Installation and setup. I set up the motor only from the TV and receiver-/Openbox X-820/- it has 3 scales-signal-noise and the most important-=quality=. If the frequencies in the DVB-S2-I set up another receiver. And all these finders and tweeters are nonsense-. I install the motor on a vertical support, clamp it by about 70%. Then I hang the antenna on the =trunk= of the motor, also not clamping it all the way. I set the elevation on the motor - /I also not clamp the bolts all the way/. I measure with a tape measure so that the distance from the center of the motor to the edge - /left-right/ of the antenna are the same. I turn the motor with the antenna to my south - /28.2e/, my true azimuth is -180.7 degrees. Just super.

There is a hint for this, the sites -

LyngSat https://www.lyngsat.com and

Satbeams - Footprints on Google maps Find your place and they give you all the information about your coordinates for setting up the motor. Sometimes I use a hand compass. You can also determine by the sun - /for my area, south is satellite 36e and time 12.30-13.30/ approximately where to set up the motor - /28.2e/. Setting up. I connect the cable to the LNB receiver, from the receiver wires to the TV. And I set it up like a simple stationary antenna. First, by frequency with a strong signal, then I select a frequency with a weak signal and with the LNB setting. I tighten all the nuts to 90%. I disconnect the cable from the receiver and connect the cable from the LNV to the motor. I connect the second cable from the motor to the receiver. And we turn it to the West to the outermost satellite and back to the East. And we record the signal strength with stops at different satellites. If you do not like the signal on the outermost satellite, manually raise the antenna a little to the left and right, up and down. And we look at which side the signal is highest. We return to point -0- loosen the nuts on the motor-/do not touch the antenna fasteners/ and move it a little to the position you need-/or elevation adjusting/. I check all manipulations again. If everything is good, we clamp all the fasteners of the antenna and motor. It seems that's all. And a few photos.